Starcraft Overhaul FM - GAME OVER (Mafia Victory)

Go do your magic where you put the votecounts and you color over them like you did on Flicker.

I chose not to use my role last night. I placed my faith in the rest of the town to not execute me, and in myself, to not get executed. I think I’d do it again. I’d rather survive because of my own competence than because of a role, and if I lack the former, then I need to learn it, not take so easy an out.

Though I’m also going to say that none of you fuckers should believe Jarek’s claim for a second holy hell why am I the only one questioning this

I don’t know, it sounds so daring and unbelievable at the same time

And he also gone to claim the nightkill

I mean, my logic is that most endless WIFOM cycle odds work out to about 50/50. It’s a push and pull - every time Jarek becomes more unlikely to fakeclaim the same role they had last time, town becomes more likely to believe it, and so Jarek becomes more likely to fakeclaim it. It’s like they said - fake whatever seems the unlikeliest thing for someone to fake. It hangs in the balance forever, in theory.

The thing is, the chances of Jarek actually getting this very specific role that they got last time are miniscule. CPR Doctor is an uncommon role, Even-Night is an uncommon modifier, and the idea that it’d go to Jarek specifically is another 1/16. I think I worked it out to 1/(20*24*16), which is like, 1/7500.

That earlier calculation is nowhere near correct, but it’s probably about the same order of magnitude as the real chance - it’s always going to work out as much smaller than the chance that Jarek just… thought everyone would believe them if they claimed this role, especially since they were right.

The fact that there was only one nightkill reinforces the idea that they’re fakeclaiming. It’s very easy to just… use the nightkill to try to back up your claim. Extremely easy. Especially since there’s either a mafia fakeclaiming Jailkeeper or a real Jailkeeper out there.

If we think of it this way, it’s either Jarek or Zoro, or both.

Basically here it was this entire argument

Yeah, that’s what I was on about earlier swapping my vote back and forth. I think the chances that it’s not Jarek are so miniscule as to be ignored. See my favorite mafia article of all time:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Balancing_Possibilities_Versus_Probabilities

Funny number time

Hmmm, wait a moment. Zoro from what I’ve heard is planned to be lynched next if you flip town.

VOTE: Jarek

You know, I’m starting to believe that maybe Jarek does have the balls for that

And I don’t want that, and I’ve been maintaining that I don’t want that for quite some time. But nobody else sees through Jarek - it feels like I’ve gone mad, honestly, and there’s some blatant evil in the room that only I can see - so they just… fall for their false dichotomy.

Hey, Silviu, you wouldn’t happen to be wolf with Jarek, right?

:slightly_smiling_face:

Well, good luck if you are. I don’t want to win with a town like this, honestly, and I struggle to properly read people who listen to me, so I don’t think my chances of finding out your alignment for real are particularly high.

Okay I think I can out myself now. Yes me and Magnus are wolf actually.

Also Jaiden is not what she says she is, she’s actually a witch and pretty sure we’re going to stab somebody and Jarek is going to get redirected into another person.

Jaiden if you read this, redirect Jarek into Italy.

… That’s what I would say if I’m wolf.

I’m offended :sob: do you really think Zone would put me as mafia with that stupid role :sob: