Stratagem-10 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[Jaiden]

@Jaiden

its a metaplay really
ill explain more mid-d1 prolly

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[guavagudetama]

Okay I’ll wait then I guess

[Jaiden]

i feel like the idea of it being a metaplay was explained with the meta-mech post

[Jaiden]

@guavagudetama

Is this not an accusation btw?
I must be going insane

that was a soul read and was framed as such

[guavagudetama]

Yeah I know you said that
I don’t even really know what that means I’m gonna be honest
But the fact that there’s a more to explain means that even if I did know what you meant by that I probably still wouldn’t get it

[guavagudetama]

@guavagudetama

@Jarek

It’s like having a dude claiming to be mafia and then just ignoring them because you might find another mafia it’s like why? just kill them now so you have one less person who could be evil.

@Jarek

hard claiming mafia traitor

easy /j
VOTE: Jarek

@Jarek

Also that’s like…Applying specifically to the last game and isn’t supposed to be taken out of context please and thanks

@Jarek

hard claiming mafia traitor never rescinding

@Jarek

@Memes

Something to keep an eye on. Bookmarking

Have people never seen this joke being made before

This set of quotes feels weird
Like he comments that Memes can’t take a joke but I made a joke and he took it super serious
He later comments

@Jarek

To be fair I tend to over-react to any vote against me joke or not sorry

And mine had a vote and his didn’t
But the juxtaposition of the two interactions just feels off
Could just be NAI but I think he’s scared

@Jarek

I wouldn’t even be suprised if I got voted out for it and then everyone just goes “well they were scummy for saying that!!” and don’t bother looking into who made the push or why at all

Me rn /j

@Jarek

When all the mafia are dead and we are hunting the town traitor you’d be fucking stupid not to trust the PR claims

Possible that he’s saying this to like signal his traitor to claim PR

He was right in the grand scheme of this argument but also his argument was “the PRs are town” which was somehow argued against

@Jarek

Being towny doesn’t matter to me I vote who I think is evil and I think this act of pretending to solve is outwardly evil

This post is so strange…?
Firstly, you should care about looking towny. You cannot just act wolfy and expect not to be voted and expect people to not be mad at you when you know you’re acting the way you do and you know people find is suspicious
This was basically just you going “yeah I act like a wolf what about it” and what about it is if you know you’re gonna get voted out for what you do it almost feels like throwing
Secondly, is the “pretending to solve” in reference to Memes? Because despite… like… what he actually said, it did seem like he was trying to solve
I don’t agree with it but his posts certainly felt genuine

@Jarek

@Memes

Jarek and guava’s reaction to my pushes were overblown by them, could mean that they are actually scum together and panic attacked me.

ok vote me, the sooner you learn I play this way the better, I’m not interacting with this any more

This post does not come from a town!Jarek.
I refuse to believe it.
town!Jarek does not refuse to interact with a slot under any means.
I absolutely refuse to believe that is how town!Jarek plays this game and if I’m wrong I have some reevaluating to do for myself if I want to continue playing FM

Not to say that you can’t
Take a break
Or ignore a post that bothers you
But to completely ignore an entire slot?
That’s not town. That is tmi, that is wolf.

@Jarek

@Memes

My problem here, mostly with Jarek is that he is not questioning Guava or Zorvo.

Guava/Zorvo didn’t immediately call me a wolf and move on acting like they’d solved my slot within seconds, that was what I was focusing on at the time and disregarded other things to focus specifically on that. I’ve a clearer head now so re-reading people and seeing what happened elsewhere is now possible.

He ended up responding to smthn today anyway though so idk

@Jarek

If you can’t summarize it in a TL;DR I don’t see why I should bother

@Memes

Im not your assistant or your maid.

@Jarek

If you aren’t willing to co-operate with town don’t act suprised when we lose.

So like it would have been nice of him to summarise it again but he has been talking about basically only you and me in this thread so his ISO is kinda just what you’re looking for LOL
Also I don’t like the idea that because he didn’t restate information that he already gave that you can go back and look for it means that he’s wolf?
Like… what?
This isn’t like me/Silviu in CoD2 where I asked him a question and he was like “my answer is good night” and went to bed like he just already answered the question

@Memes

The motive behind this post is to seed distrust among us. Setting up the foundations to widen the PoE if we actually get ahead later.

Like in this post where he said you were “sewing distrust” and “widening the PoE” (idk what he’s talking about but he sure said it)

@Memes

Overreaction over a vote, seeding distrust, OMGUS

And then he said this

@Memes

You didnt vote acknowledging it, you are echoing him.

Now im pretty sure one of you two is scum.

And then there was this (the other person in the “two” here was me — it’s when we both said we thought his tone was rude)

@Memes

Yah you are echoing. Pretty standard wolf tactic providing false positive support to a wrong townie pushing me while at the same time pairing him to you.

More clarification on the echo

So to summarise even further

-your PR comment is to “sew distrust” and “widen the PoE”
-you overreacted when pushed
-OMGUS moment
-you echoed me to make me more confident in my push

I don’t think I actually agree with any of this but it definitely feels like a solve and I easily found all this in his ISO so idk what your problem was unless you had a time constraint

@Jarek

I’m not interacting with one of them any longer, so someone else can sort it out

Aaand you ended up back on this… it’s just unfortunate, really

@Jarek

@guavagudetama

Like Jarek has said some strange shit today but that is not one of them lol

Classy

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

Like he comments that Memes can’t take a joke but I made a joke and he took it super serious

The difference is my joke is super obvious because I’m either gamethrowing or joking

[guavagudetama]

@Jarek

@guavagudetama

Like he comments that Memes can’t take a joke but I made a joke and he took it super serious

The difference is my joke is super obvious because I’m either gamethrowing or joking

It’s always an obvious joke to the teller

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

Not to say that you can’t
Take a break
Or ignore a post that bothers you
But to completely ignore an entire slot?
That’s not town. That is tmi, that is wolf.

Every post that slot has made has either been AtE nonsense or accusing me for equally nonsense and frustrating reasons. Not healthy to continue pretending I want to interact with that.

[guavagudetama]

@Jarek

Every post that slot has made has either been AtE nonsense or accusing me for equally nonsense and frustrating reasons.

This is not true and you know it.

@Jarek

Not healthy to continue pretending I want to interact with that.

True

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

This is not true and you know it.

As far as I know it is. No matter how I look at it every time I talk to them I get annoyed. I’d rather enjoy myself.

[Silviu200530]

Hey guys I’ll be off for now. My cold is making my head pound.

Good night everyone.

[Silviu200530]

@guavagudetama

This isn’t like me/Silviu in CoD2 where I asked him a question and he was like “my answer is good night” and went to bed like

My reaction to this post is have a good rest

[Jarek]

I don’t like that that’s the case and I hope it improves. But I know that every time I talk to that slot and hear them talk about just how evil I am and they refuse to listen or back down and refuse to co-operate with even the simplest of requests, that I’m definitely not on friendly terms with someone who wants to act like that

[Jarek]

Here’s my readlist for those that are curious

Townies
Jaiden
Myself (No way)
Zorvo
Memes
Neon

Null
Magnus
Silviu
Guava

Mafia(?)
Everyone else because you’re slankers

[Jarek]

That’s 4 mafia but I allow myself room for error

I don’t actually have a super deep mafia read yet. Not confident enough to say someone is mafia and that I’d like to see them die to prove it

[guavagudetama]

Why are you townreading Neon?

[Jaiden]

i am above even you to yourself in towncred

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

Why are you townreading Neon?

Counterpoint why shouldn’t I

@Jaiden

i am above even you to yourself in towncred

In no particular order

[guavagudetama]

@Jarek

Counterpoint why shouldn’t I

I just wanted to know if you had a reason