Stratagem-10 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[guavagudetama]

I’m just confused I’m not trying to fight you mb

[Jaiden]

if you havent read me yet id appreciate if you did
i have to get a vibe of everyone this game

[guavagudetama]

@guavagudetama

you voting him without thinking he’s a wolf

I did this too I really need to read my posts before I send them

[Silviu200530]

This is my vibe

[Jaiden]

oh i dont mind dw

[Jaiden]

its a metaplay really
ill explain more mid-d1 prolly

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

I think I know what you mean and if it’s what I think it is that’s a little funny

You went from wanting to vote magnus to wanting to vote memes to wanting to vote me in the span of about an hour and it was pretty wild and maybe it means nothing but I have decided it means something

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

Like Jarek has said some strange shit today but that is not one of them lol

[guavagudetama]

@Jaiden

if you havent read me yet

Since I didn’t read their posts /s I’m going to ISO Jaiden instead

@Jaiden

so uh i originally was going to join the thread at sod with a proposition but ill just do it now

we should either exec achromatic or noexec here.
As its better for the gamestate,
VOTE: Achromatic

I still don’t understand this
Like
Sees zero poster
“It’s this or noexe”
But you’re not accusing them of being wolf…?
What is this

@Jaiden

this isnt something id think of saying as scum and if you know me youll know that

This sign can’t stop me because I can’t read

@Jaiden

another thing i thought about was saying im really town this game. like actually town
this isnt something id think of saying as scum and if you know me youll know that
take this as you will

And I’m taking it as suspicious that you said you were going to do something you would do as town side but didn’t do it

@Jaiden

not liking magnus here, their opening was lacking the logic im used to seeing from magnus, even if trying something different

At least I’m not the only one confused by Magnus’ opener

@Jaiden

You’d think, it’s more of a meta+mech play
im fine with either noexec or achro today

I continue to not get it
Is almost feels like you’re softing a night zero alignment check which is not even a feature in the game

@Jaiden

for some less solid reads,
my soul says magnus/zorvo/achromatic

Is this not an accusation btw?
I must be going insane

@Jaiden

second choice is >2 of (neon, prisma, guava)

Based

I read the posts Again I still don’t get it lol

[guavagudetama]

@Jarek

You went from wanting to vote magnus to wanting to vote memes to wanting to vote me in the span of about an hour and it was pretty wild and maybe it means nothing but I have decided it means something

Magnus was just me saying
“Hey this was kinda weird for you”
And then them going
“Why lol”
And then me going
“idk it just is”

My vote on Memes I literally said I was looking for someone else to vote but I was putting my vote there for the time being

And then I stumbled onto you

[guavagudetama]

This is even funnier than what I thought btw cuz I didn’t even think you were gonna bring up what I said to Magnus

[Jaiden]

@Jaiden

its a metaplay really
ill explain more mid-d1 prolly

.

[guavagudetama]

Okay I’ll wait then I guess

[Jaiden]

i feel like the idea of it being a metaplay was explained with the meta-mech post

[Jaiden]

@guavagudetama

Is this not an accusation btw?
I must be going insane

that was a soul read and was framed as such

[guavagudetama]

Yeah I know you said that
I don’t even really know what that means I’m gonna be honest
But the fact that there’s a more to explain means that even if I did know what you meant by that I probably still wouldn’t get it

[guavagudetama]

@guavagudetama

@Jarek

It’s like having a dude claiming to be mafia and then just ignoring them because you might find another mafia it’s like why? just kill them now so you have one less person who could be evil.

@Jarek

hard claiming mafia traitor

easy /j
VOTE: Jarek

@Jarek

Also that’s like…Applying specifically to the last game and isn’t supposed to be taken out of context please and thanks

@Jarek

hard claiming mafia traitor never rescinding

@Jarek

@Memes

Something to keep an eye on. Bookmarking

Have people never seen this joke being made before

This set of quotes feels weird
Like he comments that Memes can’t take a joke but I made a joke and he took it super serious
He later comments

@Jarek

To be fair I tend to over-react to any vote against me joke or not sorry

And mine had a vote and his didn’t
But the juxtaposition of the two interactions just feels off
Could just be NAI but I think he’s scared

@Jarek

I wouldn’t even be suprised if I got voted out for it and then everyone just goes “well they were scummy for saying that!!” and don’t bother looking into who made the push or why at all

Me rn /j

@Jarek

When all the mafia are dead and we are hunting the town traitor you’d be fucking stupid not to trust the PR claims

Possible that he’s saying this to like signal his traitor to claim PR

He was right in the grand scheme of this argument but also his argument was “the PRs are town” which was somehow argued against

@Jarek

Being towny doesn’t matter to me I vote who I think is evil and I think this act of pretending to solve is outwardly evil

This post is so strange…?
Firstly, you should care about looking towny. You cannot just act wolfy and expect not to be voted and expect people to not be mad at you when you know you’re acting the way you do and you know people find is suspicious
This was basically just you going “yeah I act like a wolf what about it” and what about it is if you know you’re gonna get voted out for what you do it almost feels like throwing
Secondly, is the “pretending to solve” in reference to Memes? Because despite… like… what he actually said, it did seem like he was trying to solve
I don’t agree with it but his posts certainly felt genuine

@Jarek

@Memes

Jarek and guava’s reaction to my pushes were overblown by them, could mean that they are actually scum together and panic attacked me.

ok vote me, the sooner you learn I play this way the better, I’m not interacting with this any more

This post does not come from a town!Jarek.
I refuse to believe it.
town!Jarek does not refuse to interact with a slot under any means.
I absolutely refuse to believe that is how town!Jarek plays this game and if I’m wrong I have some reevaluating to do for myself if I want to continue playing FM

Not to say that you can’t
Take a break
Or ignore a post that bothers you
But to completely ignore an entire slot?
That’s not town. That is tmi, that is wolf.

@Jarek

@Memes

My problem here, mostly with Jarek is that he is not questioning Guava or Zorvo.

Guava/Zorvo didn’t immediately call me a wolf and move on acting like they’d solved my slot within seconds, that was what I was focusing on at the time and disregarded other things to focus specifically on that. I’ve a clearer head now so re-reading people and seeing what happened elsewhere is now possible.

He ended up responding to smthn today anyway though so idk

@Jarek

If you can’t summarize it in a TL;DR I don’t see why I should bother

@Memes

Im not your assistant or your maid.

@Jarek

If you aren’t willing to co-operate with town don’t act suprised when we lose.

So like it would have been nice of him to summarise it again but he has been talking about basically only you and me in this thread so his ISO is kinda just what you’re looking for LOL
Also I don’t like the idea that because he didn’t restate information that he already gave that you can go back and look for it means that he’s wolf?
Like… what?
This isn’t like me/Silviu in CoD2 where I asked him a question and he was like “my answer is good night” and went to bed like he just already answered the question

@Memes

The motive behind this post is to seed distrust among us. Setting up the foundations to widen the PoE if we actually get ahead later.

Like in this post where he said you were “sewing distrust” and “widening the PoE” (idk what he’s talking about but he sure said it)

@Memes

Overreaction over a vote, seeding distrust, OMGUS

And then he said this

@Memes

You didnt vote acknowledging it, you are echoing him.

Now im pretty sure one of you two is scum.

And then there was this (the other person in the “two” here was me — it’s when we both said we thought his tone was rude)

@Memes

Yah you are echoing. Pretty standard wolf tactic providing false positive support to a wrong townie pushing me while at the same time pairing him to you.

More clarification on the echo

So to summarise even further

-your PR comment is to “sew distrust” and “widen the PoE”
-you overreacted when pushed
-OMGUS moment
-you echoed me to make me more confident in my push

I don’t think I actually agree with any of this but it definitely feels like a solve and I easily found all this in his ISO so idk what your problem was unless you had a time constraint

@Jarek

I’m not interacting with one of them any longer, so someone else can sort it out

Aaand you ended up back on this… it’s just unfortunate, really

@Jarek

@guavagudetama

Like Jarek has said some strange shit today but that is not one of them lol

Classy

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

Like he comments that Memes can’t take a joke but I made a joke and he took it super serious

The difference is my joke is super obvious because I’m either gamethrowing or joking

[guavagudetama]

@Jarek

@guavagudetama

Like he comments that Memes can’t take a joke but I made a joke and he took it super serious

The difference is my joke is super obvious because I’m either gamethrowing or joking

It’s always an obvious joke to the teller

[Jarek]

@guavagudetama

Not to say that you can’t
Take a break
Or ignore a post that bothers you
But to completely ignore an entire slot?
That’s not town. That is tmi, that is wolf.

Every post that slot has made has either been AtE nonsense or accusing me for equally nonsense and frustrating reasons. Not healthy to continue pretending I want to interact with that.