It’s not useful for you to die unopposed. Guava was clearly gonna die for sooo long all D1, there was no pressure and that’s part of what makes this game hard to read. If you fight, you’ll put some pressure on the wolves in the process, no matter what happens
townie af btw
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not so townie af btw given I think this is silly but at least you didnt do it
My TL on Arctic changed after I updated my reads on N1 (specifically: adding Abbi & May as TL/upper null) and I ISO-ed them.
I’ve mentioned this previously but I didn’t like the amount of hedge in their reads, and when I thought about it, they didn’t have much going for them aside from their “towny tone” (esp when compared to Abbi/Luka/May).
“Don’t really explain anything useful to me”
Maybe that’s because you’re not really reading me, hm?
I’ve given you plenty enough info to use as reference/baseline in creating a Psyx profile.
Wolf!Psyx tries to replicate town!Psyx.
What does this mean? It means Psyx is not a polarised player (or at least I hope so) because she’s actively trying to minimize differences. So if you’re expecting me to give you a clear-cut comparison, well bro do I have bad news for you.
This is why I said you shouldn’t use meta on me — because it’s useless.
So my question is: How do you read non-polarised players?
(i meant like, if arctic were the main wagon at eod and I was a cw, not when he was getting wagoned earlier lol)
you cry
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Dying? Debatably useful over some players, especially if you are currently a wolf. Fighting? Always +EV to town, no matter hte alignment of the person you’re fighting to push over, no matter your own alignment. Provided you’re not toxic but I’ll throw rocks at you if you are so don’t worry about it. More content to sacrifice at the altar to the gods who bestow upon us reads
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(you try to read them the same as any other player but you’re less successful? idk what else)
What if Wind is a wolf
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Guava’s town, Garfooled’s probably town, the lowest-hanging fruit (and they really weren’t that low-hanging LOL) D1 were both town. Wind was towny for her lack of pushing for influence. She shows up today with an excuse for why she didn’t push for influence. Hmmhmhmhmhmhm
But did this really come across as a game where town would be wrong if given time to themselves? If Wind’s playing like this, she doesn’t want that influence. At this point Caitlin was still a pretty high wagon, she was town… hmmm… if Abbi hadn’t moved in with the hard defend… hmhmhmhmhmhm
Cause the thing about Wind is that they’re towny for these kinds of. Towntells. They don’t have a
This could be a reason for not reaching for influence early on as wolf? Imitation of meta?
HM
But I don’t think I’m getting a ton reading this early shit anyway I gotta check her D2 and I’m not htere yet. Sorry for realtiming a wallpost instead of posting a wallpost. Or not sorry. People complain about both
We’re supposed to attack the play not the player, so I can’t call you the worst villager I’ve ever met. Instead, I want you to know that you pushing to misexe luka when he was a revealed innocent child is one of the worst plays I’ve ever seen.
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Arctic.
When the fuck in the 10s of games you’ve seen me in have I EVERRRRRR displayed a lack of confidence in any of my town reads
Or wolf reads for that matter. You’ve seen me tunnel. You’ve also seen me hard defend you KNOW i’m like this.
So why are you using it to justify a push on me here?
Look I was gonna ignore this push but this rationale is bad and you SHOULD know it’s bad.
It’s not quite veiled enough to actually tilt me. Like you have to be less mean otherwise I’ll just like it
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Your play of counterclaiming the Vanilla Town as Town was complete garbage, only an absolute braindead moron would ever make that play.
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Votecount as of P#2358
Arctic (3): Psyx, lol, PrincessAbigail
PrincessAbigail (2): Arctic, May
Garfooled (1): WindwardAway
Zugzwang (1): Luka
Not Voting (2): Garfooled, Zugzwang
reading wind I don’t think he’s done that either
he hasn’t been super sure, but like
he doesn’t feel lost/moping
also I don’t think he feels that towny? like if you take into account that he’s admitted he was doing towntells on purpose d1…
and his push on me doesn’t feel very… genuine.
like.
I’ve pointed out flaws in the analysis earlier, but as for why it’s scummy.
(also warning that despite my best efforts I am terrible at wording this into a coherent whole and am tempted to make diagrams instead of wallposts)
It feels like it’s just… assuming I’m scum and then supporting that. They cherrypicked things to support their argument (i.e. does my push on Psyx just… mean nothing), and the points they picked are given a very cut-and-dry interpretation that ignores all the nuance of the game. They don’t seem to be trying to see any town perspective in my actions.
They start with “oh I must be trying to kill a claimed PR” which is a pretty questionable point. Sure it doesn’t make much sense for town, but it makes less sense for wolves. Then they talk about my push on Abbi, but reading carefully they actually only use it to do 2 things. The first is that it makes my push on lol more realistic from a wolf pov (and ignore that it also makes it make more sense from town). The second is that it looks like I’m trying to look good by being off-wagon. Which is not only demonstrably false but super surface level. They don’t check whether my reasons for not voting Guava look fake, or whether my reasons for voting Abbi looked genuine.
The other point he makes is lol getting vanillaized implicates me. Which while true is a very cut-and-dry point that inevitably is filled with WIFOM. The point does also implicate him, though. Also, he notably doesn’t mention the Cait kill, which implicates me but not him. I can’t help but think he is a wolf who is making this connection because that was his reason for vanillaizing lol.
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