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[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

@Garfooled

I wonder if it’s bcus they’re wolf and don’t know how to react properly to questioning or… There’s another explanation but I want them to give it to me instead of me giving it for them

i don’t think this is
an actual thing

[Leafia]

Going to call it a night now,so good night everyone.

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

the way you phrased it, anyways

[Magnus]

@Leafia

I did not.

I’m quite sure you did not comment about this scumlean any time earlier today

@ElizaThePsycho

@Garfooled

I wonder if it’s bcus they’re wolf and don’t know how to react properly to questioning or… There’s another explanation but I want them to give it to me instead of me giving it for them

i don’t think this is
an actual thing

Could you elaborate on this part?

[Magnus]

@May

Though I agree with them on many points, May’s play here is pretty typical of them, though that makes them hard to read. It’s almost like they’re putting up a mask of impersonating their own past gameplay, making it difficult to read them.

I won’t press further for now, as I trust in our masonry, but it is something I would like to keep an eye on.

That being said, I’m happy to work with them for now on a VOTE: Leafia, if that’s what they want. These wagons need to be cleaned up a little.

I am surprised at Magnus starting a wagon here, especially not so late into the first day. I don’t think it’s a scumtell, I just wanted to point it out.
I can throw down a VOTE: Leafia as well, just to set up competing wagons and because I’m not as immediately convinced as some other people are. In any case, Leafia acts the most interestingly out of anyone here when she’s under pressure, and I wouldn’t mind facilitating that behavior

[sulit]

@Magnus

Although, Maynus putting suspicion onto Garfooled is relevant to one of their comments later down

I don’t find that too convincing when the original reason for their suspicion is illogical at best and absolutely ridiculous at worst

@Magnus

From where I’m standing, this looks like Maynus”s interpretation was that Litten had prewritten his opening post, and while it’s slightly towny (meaning more towny than not) that he followed through with posting it, such an act isn’t exactly clearing. You aren’t really disagreeing with Maynus here?

No, I’m not disagreeing with WhoeverMagnusMay

I’m saying that, as they had recognized that Litten’s post was towny, the logic should have extended to that Litten probably would not be pushing hard to play this optimally if they were mafia, leading to a stronger townread. The logic seems off to me. It’s not disagreement.

@Magnus

This is a weird conclusion because it suggests Maynus had a stronger sense of distrust on Garfooled’s slot than what was initially expressed. I haven’t personally checked the votecounts at that time, but if a quickly growing wagon is indicative of a non pure wagon, and the person you suspect is being pushed, it’s a logical conclusion to make. I have a different gripe with this post than you do

What’s your different gripe?

I’m just finding this line of reasoning illogical or fake.

Garfooled corrected someone → they’re pocketing them → they’re a wolf with early d1 distancing on their wagon

doesn’t make sense to me

Again, it’d be okay ok it’s own, I could tolerate it, but the whole wall post has repetitive things like this that just seem logically off to me if that makes sense.

Also you guys are making me grumpy and annoyed I strongly dislike your bit and I think it’s dumb.

[sulit]

@May

Though I agree with them on many points, May’s play here is pretty typical of them, though that makes them hard to read. It’s almost like they’re putting up a mask of impersonating their own past gameplay, making it difficult to read them.

I won’t press further for now, as I trust in our masonry, but it is something I would like to keep an eye on.

also what???

[sulit]

am I like the only person that thinks this is weird

[sulit]

idk maybe I just don’t know may that well if that is May

I have played with magnus but not with May but I haven’t played recently enough to remember how magnus plays and their dumb bit thing is making it more confusing

[Magnus]

Yes. You’re getting confused again

[sulit]

wow I really wonder why

[May]

(Hi it’s me May outside of the bit here to be clear this is me saying “Magnus impersonating my gameplay and tone means they’re hard to read”)

[Magnus]

@sulit

@Magnus

Although, Maynus putting suspicion onto Garfooled is relevant to one of their comments later down

I don’t find that too convincing when the original reason for their suspicion is illogical at best and absolutely ridiculous at worst

I think it’s absolutely ridiculous by design

@sulit

@Magnus

From where I’m standing, this looks like Maynus”s interpretation was that Litten had prewritten his opening post, and while it’s slightly towny (meaning more towny than not) that he followed through with posting it, such an act isn’t exactly clearing. You aren’t really disagreeing with Maynus here?

No, I’m not disagreeing with WhoeverMagnusMay

I’m saying that, as they had recognized that Litten’s post was towny, the logic should have extended to that Litten probably would not be pushing hard to play this optimally if they were mafia, leading to a stronger townread. The logic seems off to me. It’s not disagreement.

Seeing how I’m still playing the devil’s advocate, which is absolutely a new position for me and not a sign of me being argumentative… Litten is the 2021 best Mafia player on this site

@sulit

@Magnus

This is a weird conclusion because it suggests Maynus had a stronger sense of distrust on Garfooled’s slot than what was initially expressed. I haven’t personally checked the votecounts at that time, but if a quickly growing wagon is indicative of a non pure wagon, and the person you suspect is being pushed, it’s a logical conclusion to make. I have a different gripe with this post than you do

What’s your different gripe?

I said it. We agreed it was a weird post, but you had a different reason

[Magnus]

Coward

[Magnus]

@sulit

Also you guys are making me grumpy and annoyed I strongly dislike your bit and I think it’s dumb.

[sulit]

Kiiruma Eliza

[May]

And Litten.

[sulit]

sorry

if you guys wanna mess around that’s fine but you’re actively making yourselves harder to read if you are town

[Magnus]

Okay I’m fine with that

[Magnus]

I’m not planning on throwing the game for the bit, I’m just trying to have fun so Mafia games don’t stagnate.
I can’t speak for Maynus. I think they’re also just having fun