Tales of the Abyss - Town Victory!

[Magnus]

Your answers were unsatisfactory and avoided the point.

@Frostwolf103

I am on work right now, I will answer that when I have time

@Frostwolf103

Okay well, I don’t think its really possible to solve besides the tunneling on Lea because she sheeped

[Magnus]

I’m not trying to be harsh, sorry if I’m coming across that way. I’m just upset that you’re acting like everyone is unfairly out to get you.

[Hazardwaste]

@SultanOfSlam

Gmm okay so if we believe Leafia

Set up b?

Can i just state. this comment could easily be faked, but if Sultan was scum wouldnt he know that the roles would be set up in knight formation due to the PR roles he would know? i think this could be a town slip.

@SultanOfSlam

would say yes but i kind of like this side of IGCD seems kinda more confident coming into the game. Maybe beacuse only a few of us know him.

Anything stand out as scummy though?

thankyou for an answer thats not biting back at me but thankyou for the confirmation

@SultanOfSlam

It seems like they have a few reads but are like scared to go into much detail is my main reasons.

Another person who sum’s me up fucking perfectly

Unironically Love this Sultan guy <3. I think if i can get a confirmation if it was a town slip i would be happy to town lean them

[Magnus]

You could be happy to townlean them anyway.

[SultanOfSlam]

Thank you for finding this.

[May]

For the record, forming counterwagons is just… my obligation. It’s my job to counterwagon earlygame. I need the information, EoD is free pressure for scum you don’t even have to work for, I’m going to take advantage of that every time. I will form counterwagons until we only have one scum left, and then sometimes I’ll even form counterwagons some more. Here’s some past examples:

Morbtainado, my first game, where I flashwagoned epitau despite starting the current main wagon, then swapped back

@Apocryphal

Epitau flashwagon, anyone?

@May

Sure, why the hell not VOTE: Epitau

@May

I <3 ties. Hey, anyone want to break this

@May

I dunno, if Pigeon were scum, I’m not sure his partners would be this eager to save him. What even happens if he lives another day? He just gets voted then. It’s just buying time - I doubt he’s going to live that long. Unless scum are either stuck in sunk cost fallacy or taking refuge in audacity, this flashwagon is just way too obvious.

Now, on the other hand, if Pigeon’s town, I can totally see scum starting or at least joining this second wagon (presumably on another townie). It’s decent towncred to start a counterwagon when a townie’s about to Explode Die, and if it goes through and Epitau flips town, it allows them to waste another day pursuing Pigeon, as this is “proof” he’s scum.

I never intended to stay on this wagon until EoD; I just wanted to make the Pigeon vote more informative, and that’s been achieved. VOTE: Pigeon

OSFE, where Brad was... let's be honest, obvscum D1 who I failed to spot, and I started a wagon away from him (on town) to see how Jaiden would react

@May

Unfortunately, I have to break it to you that I am not. This is just the way I am

Anyway VOTE: Zorvo Most likely wolf

@May

@Jaiden

im not really swayed on both brad and furtive so unless i get shown the receipts ill let god decide

I think you should make a decision. I don’t trust god.

@May

Don’t you remember the twelfth commandment? Thou shalt not be wolfy? Refusing to move off your vanity vote is that.

@Host_Account_5

BradLand (3): furtiveglance, ElizaThePsycho, IcetFeelsPain
Zorvo (3): May, Jaiden, BradLand
Jaiden (1): Zorvo
furtiveglance (1): Leafia

Not Voting (1): Jarek

And probably plenty in between my first game and one of my last. I refuse to let days have a single runaway wagon, and I especially refuse to let D1s have a single runaway wagon. It’s inherently uninformative. I like forcing scum to make decisions, and wagoning Achro did that. Helped me form a townread on Kiiruma, a wolfread on Frost, and will probably inform plenty more once things have narrowed down a bit and I know more alignments of people in the conversation. This is just May behaviour.

Curious that Magnus hasn’t pointed this one out, but maybe they just haven’t noticed this habit of mine.

[Hazardwaste]

@May

Actually I am dissatisfied with this game state Leafia wagon is too runaway. Hold on BRB grabbing a scumcase

@May

I’d like to extend this question to everyone voting her, actually: if not Leafia, who would you want out?

I keep getting weird pings from VOTE: Frostwolf, and I want to put that on the boar, even if it is a little late for that. I do not have time nor energy nor the proper device to be quotewalling about it right now.

@May

Instant OMGUS is towny for you, I think. You can have that read placed on pause for that. Moving on. VOTE: Achro

Weird interaction which kinda gives me a feel that may and frost may be alligned… i think i am reading too deep into this one tho (but may did then instantly jump on to achro)

@May

FOR THE RECORD I did not actually want Achro out D1 he self resolves every time I would have swapped my vote to Leafia had it come down to it I just like counterwagon gaming

we would have no proof this was your intention unless it happened. sorry may

:PP idk about may theres not much i can find to scum lean or town lean her. i think how she is acting currently is pretty on meta for someone who is playing several games at once… but its not helping me read them anyway

[Hazardwaste]

OH DAMN SPEAK OF THE DEVIL. PERFECT TIMING

[Hazardwaste]

literally an answer for a question i was gonna ask you… Thankyou!

[May]

@Hazardwaste

@May

FOR THE RECORD I did not actually want Achro out D1 he self resolves every time I would have swapped my vote to Leafia had it come down to it I just like counterwagon gaming

we would have no proof this was your intention unless it happened. sorry may

Yeah, no, that’s entirely fair, you have no way of knowing that was my intention, and I didn’t say this statement meaning for the rest of the game to find it towny. I said it for the audience. I said it to clarify I wasn’t that bamboozled by Leafia, so that I look like slightly less of a clown, because that’s something I apparently put effort into, despite the fact that it is attempting to sponge up the sea.

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

Saying that all of town are being lazy is a sweeping generalisation when you’re the one without so much as a single townread in your back pocket.
Just one.

But that’s exactly my point, but I am not going to argue.

@Magnus

He is known to be capable as a villager, but when he’s evil his cases are usually obviously pushed in bad faith

Town or not, I am not capable to convince players to understand and follow my reads, thus I am getting frustrated and more unwilling to cooperate.

Read back at Day 1 and you can see I give a go and even going back to searching up and analyse when Achro asked.

Speaking of him, what do I have to gain for his death besides thread presence? I would have been more cooperating with him alive and that is why I am thinking I am now taking the fall and I am fine with that.

[Hazardwaste]

no yeah thats fair.

[Hazardwaste]

Town lean
Magnus
Zennon
Proph
Gar
Kiiruma
Sulit
MrL
Sultan

Null
May

Scum lean
Marluna
IGCD
Lea
Hippo
Frost

(Updated reads.)

[Hazardwaste]

(Names are not in order fyi)

[Frostwolf103]

Okay…

[Magnus]

Since you’ve been trying to read into Kiiruma’s slot, Hazard, I would like to ask you about his reads, or lack thereof.
I know he claims to have taken a break for half of D1, and I won’t read into that, but his readlist seemed to have barely any thought put into it (given the contradictions in his explanation later), and his limited focus on slots other than Leafia, Achro, and briefly IGCD.

Today, Kiiruma said he needed to reevaluate after Leafia and Achro’s flips. He tried using Achro’s reasoning from yesterday to defend-himself, and he pushed you (a null read) over IGCD or Mr.L (scumreads from yesterday).

You also said he likes to buddy. Would you say this is something w!Kiiruma would say? “I’m with you”?

@Kiiruma

Hopefully you’re town and let’s see if we can pick up from where we left in Strategem.

[sulit]

hazard ur funny I like you

(aggressive pocketing)

[Hazardwaste]

Dont fucking do that. it works

[Magnus]

What about your stats, though?

[May]

Oh, it’s usually terrible for my stats, honestly. Plenty of days where a wolf was executed and I was fucking off on a counterwagon for the sake of having a counterwagon. There are some things more important than statistics. Only a select few, though.