This is peak fiction.
sips popcorn-flavored tea
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L, discounting Leafia, whereâs your head at right now? Thoughts on the other GameFAQers and/or the various slap fights Chris has gotten himself into?
(Super Paper Mario was also a goated game with goated music)
FWIW re eliza: She keeps joining games and puts what I feel to be fairly minimal effort which is discouraging but not alignment indicative really whatsoever.
Havenât really played vs wolf her, but unless she does something extremely clearing or has a strong unaligned pair with a wolf then I tend to PoE her late game.
Her nervousness/anger about getting run up I donât think is very alignment indicative but not super sure here. I donât like to execute strong players or lurkers D1, so I wouldnât look her way Today but definitely open to PoEing her on later days.
While I understand Achroâs point that Leaâs response post could be seen as coming from a defence position, the whole thing about owning her unhelpful start, I canât help but disagree. I was specifically getting âouted evilâ Serial Killer vibes, not âfailing to stay hiddenâ Mafia vibes like you can see quite plainly with Leafiaâs behaviour. Lea directly taunted Achro back when she was only being voted by Zenon, even when other people were throwing her name about. I could see her sliding into this position out of necessity, but itâs a risky manoeuvre for someone under so little pressure at the time. I think itâs plausible.
Achroâs argument boils down to âIâm invincible and therefore youâre intentionally wasting your time to save yourselfâ, which comes from a position of security. In other words, while Achro doesnât feel threatened, he is trying to discredit Leaâs push here. My impulse is to call this V/V, but there is something weird here. Both of these posts read bizarrely to me. I donât think theyâre evil aligned, for what itâs worth.
Well you saw scum leafia, letâs look at how town leafia reacts when Achro votes @Garfooled
Completely chill, doesnât call me a wolf
Votes someone who is voting me a little later, actually.
She is just completely unbothered by my pressure vote on her early as town. Itâs a completely different reaction.
I get what you are saying that it isnât literally a photocopy, but thatâs not my standard. My standard is what you said - composure really. I donât think sheâs had any composure here where you do, whereas I look at love is war leafia and she was a confident badass who didnât give a fuck that achro voted her early and barely even blinked.
Just a totally different reaction.
Notice how she ASKS me things when she is town that she disagrees with. She is trying to solve me.
Vs declarative statements here:
(also leafia likes to call votes pressure votes as scum lol)
She cloaks herself in âthis is validâ but no curiosity. No trying to understand.
âachro, can you please explain your read on marluna?â no, just says it cant happen.
again, she didnt ask.
finally many interactions in she asks a question, but its self-interested whereas her question to me about Jaiden in a previous game was asking about my mindset
(also I am pretty sure this is a perspective slip but I know some people donât believe in those)
and she just keeps repeating.
town leafia is actually really sharp. Letâs look at hells echos.
Note she doesnât like my opening, but also quotes a lot of posts and has a robust view of the game and even voted zorvo for a sheeping vote. Note how she asks me 'what donât you like about it?" she asks me questions. Because sheâs solving and needs my answers. She is acting in good faith.
Again, she likes to quote my posts and comment on my thoughts without needing to read me for them, she likes my world view. Then she asks for me to explain.
I could go on but thereâs just a clear stark difference how wolf leafia treats me vs how town leafia treats me.
While this is a perfectly sane take, I would just like to note that Lea is very capable of sensing slight mood shifts in people and starting to come up with a reason for them. Your read is perfectly fine, but I would just suggest you do not underestimate Lea. She was # 1 on my personal list for a reason. You could be right and I am seeing shadows, it happens to the best of us after all, which is why weâre cooking up some leafeon for dinner.
There is kind of an asterisk I feel with Leafiaâs confidence in Kaguya Mafia, because she did rand mason that game.
She was also a parity cop in Hell Echoes which Iâd sort of classify as a self clearing role ish?
Iâll do some more digging on Sunday but I kind of want to see her reactions when being pressured as town when she doesnât rand PR imo.
I remembered her being a bit more hostile than usual in Xros Wars, but 1. That thread has over 10K posts so isos are broken so I refuse to go in and look and 2. We were, uh, all a little more hostile than usual in Xros Wars. I had my toxic arc
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Eliza still puts in minimal behaviour when sheâs evil, as she usually tries to hide out of sight, but you will still usually know she exists. In Helluva Boss, Eliza bussed one teammate when they were obviously going over and outright outed another at EOD2 without prior agreement in order to âclearâ herself. In Need For Speed, Eliza did not vote her teammate, but advocated for their death after their fate was foretold. In both of these games, Eliza tried going along with the thread flow at the start of the game, voting the top wagons and such. She wonât proactively hunt her own teammates until theyâre already going over, nor will she defend them.
Have been liking Magnus over the past couple of hours here btw, feels like heâs being fairly open minded and has given solid appraisals of posts (even if one of his posts imo had a decent amount of Information Instead of Analysis).
Chris
Marluna
Hippo
Magnus
Yes I realize that I am essentially sheeping Chris but I generally have a higher bar for d1 townreads, plus Iâm not as is tune with this playerbase as he is.
I am definitely the nicest and humblest person on this site.
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I donât think her treatment of me specifically would change so drastically tbh. Does Leafia being not confirmable suddenly make her cast doubt about my Marluna read rather than asking 'What made you town read her, achro?" I have my doubts.
But letâs look at the evils of Xros mafia.
Oh she replaced in, well letâs see what she does early game hmmâŚ
So yeah in Xros mafia the first thing she does read wise is give a town read on someone.
She comes off as extremely polarized and someone (garfooled) disagreeing with this makes me think maybe he is town without TMI but also I have no reference for garfooledâs wolf game.
is there a reason why u didnt include the game in question weâre talking about? i.e. Need for Speed
i just skimmed a bit and Leafia does wallpost against u, and she is also evasive, what pinged me that sheâs scum that day is that she disregarded ur explanations for ur behavior and only responded to u on mech.
the questioning bit is interesting though, i will read Need for Speed a bit more for that.
but my point isnt that Leafia is town, itâs that their responses to u are different from what im used to.
if u need one, i can link u one from 2019 on discord
outdated, and uh in a completely different environment
I didnt because you already have that game pulled up, I am citing examples of other games.
The mention of Luffy when Achro no longer has his profile picture as Luffy means this post was written out with a joke in mind, it was an intentional consideration, and it therefore isnât a spur of the moment vibe.
Splendiferous. Do you resent this notion, Garfooled?
However, if this read was more than a vibe read, than why would Gar fail to conjure a line of reasoning until questioned by Sultan?
no, i meant it. i almost wrote luffy
bcus it was vibes initially and when asked i had to ask myself where the vibes are coming from
How could you have almost written Luffy?
The really damming thing about Leafia to me is that she followed you onto Lea when she had you as her top suspect.
Like the chances that town!Leafia genuinely believes that youâre a wolf and decided to pivot off of her into randomly bussing your buddy is ???