The Amazing Digital Circus Vigilante ten-er - GAME OVER, MAFIA WIN

[Magnus]

I’m not really suspicious of Garfooled anymore, au contraire. I struggle to see a wolf willing to die and then protesting when they’re saved.

[Zugzwang]

why were you expecting to die N1, even so early on in the day?

[Zugzwang]

at night I tried it for a bit

I came up with (from most to least likely)

Tutuu
Jail
Magnus
Rhea
Gar

(big gap)

others

I expected the vig to be pretty invested, which means a lot of pressure to solve - which is why I thought Leafia/Pandora/Bystander were unlikely.

Gar didn’t claim under pressure and was worried about being shot - I think this should’ve been given more weight than I did at the time, but that’s why it’s under the others

You were very invested, and didn’t spew yourself not vig

Jail, Magnus, and Rhea were in that order because wolves can’t be the vig, and that was the order of my reads
Nothing special there that differentiates them beyond that tho
I considered Magnus giving advice to the vig, but it seemed like they’d reasonably do that as vig so I didn’t read into that

[Magnus]

Nobody else seemed immediately overtly threatening at the beginning of the game, to be honest. I underestimated several of your abilities.

[Zugzwang]

@Magnus

I think you recognised the mocking nature of this comment, but it was also the only “joking” comment from all of the Mafia quotes so you were specifically sidestepping the context in order to exact your conclusion when it’s the attitude that should matter.

I think insincere vs genuine better captures it, yeah

[Zugzwang]

@tutuu

this was posted 5 hours before EoD. how come you didn’t vote anybody after this?

wasn’t sure till near the end
when I had settled on Someone, he was already top wagon, and I figured there’s more to be gained by letting things play out with close wagons, rather than making the result look decided

[Zugzwang]

pretty sure I asked for why you TRed Magnus
idk if I asked that specific question but probably? since you were using that as a reason for your TR

[Zugzwang]

@tutuu

i dont think rhea was familiar with leafia.

Rhea has seen Leafia in Zone’s Testament (w!Rhea, T!Leafia) and Knight Errant (T/T)

[Zugzwang]

mmmmmmmmmmmm
I guess the question is how confident are you on this metaread? I do see the passion in all those, though I’m unsure if I should count the 3rd post much because it kinda had to be like that
I also remember seeing passion here

@Magnus

Garfooled / Zug would’ve been really fun, they would’ve had do much enjoyment together, but that dream was crushed.

[Zugzwang]

@tutuu

magnus gar or magnus leafia mm

I’ve switched around the colors to make it more readable (and not look terrible)
so the teams there are Magnus/Rhea (>rand) and the two you mentioned
IDK if I’d call Magnus/Rhea >rand now but it still seems viable
Magnus/Rhea does explain how they got the vig so fast, since they were both still vig candidates IMO

[Zugzwang]

mmmmmmmm
@Magnus would you say Leafia is in her town meta? given that you’re confident in reading her

[tutuu]

I’ve barely played any games with Magnus. I haven’t had a lot of chances to test my accuracy. I think it was only 3, all 10+ months ago? One wolf game where they fooled me (mountainous amq) and two town games in which I townread them (fam3 and achro’s terrible game). I townread them in all 3 games looks like

i wouldn’t bet the entire game on magnus town

[Zugzwang]

looking back - would you not find Tutuu threatening? there was this post, plus their immediate solving

@tutuu

No time to waste. Get in the car loser we’re here to end the game on Night 1. I randed town in the recently ended Paradox Hazard. We lost. No more losing. I’m going big or going home this game. It’s my way or the highway. Keep up the tempo or eat my dust.

I expect a full readslist by you by the half mark of this day phase.

This goes for the rest of you as well.

[tutuu]

Rhea and Bystander probably fit with the most amount of people? Idk what to make of garfooled, i need more input from her, leafia and bystander

[Magnus]

@Zugzwang

I also remember seeing passion here

“Dream was crushed” is an exaggerative phrase, I wouldn’t use that as evidence to townread me specifically.
Looking for passion in other quotes is fine, I think.

@Zugzwang

@Magnus would you say Leafia is in her town meta? given that you’re confident in reading her

Not inherently. Leafia’s Vigilante claim felt slightly rolefishy in a way I’d associate with her wolfgame; but she’s neglected to oppressively shove agenda in a way that w!Leafia finds fun. She also tends to just kill socially threatening players immediately, so she would have to be partnered with Rhea or someone who would seize the nightkill specifically. I firmly trust Leafia as town because she feels normal, and will continue to do so unless one of Rhea / Bystander flip town. Then she’s next.

[Magnus]

I would not find Tutuu personally threatening for either alignment as either alignment. That is not to say I don’t respect Tutuu’s ability, because I decidedly do. This speaks more about me than anyone else.

[tutuu]

WHA-

I AM A SCARY WOLF I SWEAR

[Zugzwang]

ok I think it’s fine to reveal the meta tell I had on Leafia now

she’s postcount polarized lol
across a bunch of games, she had a 140 post per day average as wolf, and a 66 post per day average as town
which is despite the fact that, in general, wolves live longer, and later days tend to have fewer posts per person

I think I should look at the variance of that data though to make sure there aren’t a bunch of outliers

[tutuu]

how many wolf games were sampled?

[Magnus]

You’re not considering the contextual data between Leafia’s alignment games, which would explain her inordinate number. w!Leafia tends to be accused more often, and tends to protest such reads to a bizarre degree.