The vibe of that variation was wolfy
Simple as
tutuu your best defense is probably just an offense and to wolf case someone really well because the vibe I am getting is we may as well vote you because no one looks worse rn
(not me tho)
Youre town. I dont know why youre confident you have an accurate read on me based on gut/vibes. Youre overestimating it. You havent had multiples games where you called me out as both town and wolf
Hello, everybody. Let’s have a good game.
I find these posts very lightly towny for both parties, Apocryphal more than bystander, if only for being an unlabored interaction in thread.
The same goes for this exchange.
I also appreciate the “hello, fellow town” tone of this post, as it’s something that can easily sound awkward and thus something I believe a wolf would go out of their way to avoid in this situation.
My first instinct is to dislike this post, but upon reflection, I think it’s fine. Complaining about an entirely unrelated game in one’s opener feels more like something a villager whose thoughts are wandering than a wolf who is trying to come up with something to say.
This post doesn’t come across as something one says about a partner very early on: if bystander were in the business of coaching LittleLee, I believe that she would have him give a read before saying something like this. As things stand, he just made a few meaningless posts, which feels like too much to give credit to a partner for. I believe this is unpaired with LittleLee, and I even think that a wolf bystander might avoid saying this about a v!LittleLee so early.
I actually find this post somewhat wolfy from tutuu, just off of instinct and tone from our previous games together.
This feels slightly better, though.
And this in particular feels like tutuu doesn’t have that feeling of pushing for credibility and respect that he did as a wolf.
It feels like Bionic is forcing a response to a read here, and it’s specifically a completely irrelevant response, which I find wolfy.
A w!sulit here would likely try to make at least one read here. Just an idle game-related comment to show a casual sense of contribution.
It feels like sheep is genuinely somewhat out of depth here and isn’t forcing reads, which I appreciate. In an unfamiliar environment as a wolf, my first instinct would be to try to look as surface-level villagery as possible, because it is generally easy to get townread as a “new player”, regardless of experience level elsewhere.
I don’t quite agree with this post, despite having said something similar earlier: the thing I find villagery is specifically the complete lack of attempt to sound villagery in those posts. Drawing attention is not generally disadvantageous as a wolf if that attention goes to townreading you (to a point, as my singular wolfgame on this site illustrated). sulit, however, gave us nothing.
This is somewhat ill-advised, and almost wolfy, but it doesn’t quite cross that boundary for me yet.
Such a flurry of posts and thoughts is villagery from Zugzwang. He is capable of faking thoughts as a wolf, but it does not come as incredibly naturally to him as it does as town. As a wolf, each individual thought and connection tends to be labored. That being said, these posts were generally each separated by a bit of time which is explained away by reading between the posts, but I still don’t find them to be lock town the way I would if they were incredibly rapid.
These posts are somewhat wolfy. They feel as if WindwardAway is thinking a lot about what they are posting and whether they sound villagery, which tends to be something wolves are disproportionately interested in.
I feel entirely neutral about these two posts, but I still feel as if they are important enough to quote, somehow.
I find this post less wolfy than WindwardAway’s openers.
However, she is still very much looking back over her posts, rereading them and thinking about how they were formatted.
I appreciate the shared thoughts here.
An insubstantial opener which I feel nothing about.
tutuu are you still here
can you heart this post if you’re typing a response rn
This, and the following engagement, which I shall not quote in its entirety, continues to be villagery.
ive founs another mafia but i wont say who because i like bionic and dont want to out them yet
The humor here is appreciated.
Really? I’ve seen wolves defend each other very dismissively, so I disagree. But you’re saying Luxy doesn’t really do that as a wolf?
Somehow, this is a post that I would generally find wolfy, and WindwardAway’s earlier posts are also posts I would generally find wolfy, but together, they paint a picture of a person who leaning closer to null to me. That is, I am starting to consider that WindwardAway might just have a personality I find wolfy.
i don’t think tutu is as polarized as yall say
cuz his last wolfgame he snowed basically so lmao
bystander, I am not sure if you will fully read this catchup post, but if you do, did you intend this post as a defense against wolfreads of tutuu? Did you disagree with them at the time?
Zugwang actually getting the ball rolling town tbh
Second thoughts have me drift bionic’s audacity down
Mostly because I get using refuge in audacity as a wolf
Another set of posts I agree with.
Bionic/Tutuu mafia
I am liking a lot in this thread so far. Add this post to the list, then. It’s a bolder call.
What does this mean
It means I think how you’ve pushed them is semi-scummy
How? I havent even given any reasons
Hippopablompoyeetus challenges Apocryphal here in a way that feels like he knows that her push has no substance behind it.
wtf wwa already has votes
I wanted to be cool and different
It seems we are all mind-melding on this point.
I don’t think tutu is a wolf
And the two of us on this one, at this point, though I am somewhat cautious due to underestimating him somewhat in his last game.
Hippo you’re doing like your jail game, people will consider your reads weak if you don’t give your reasonings
If you’re gonna push me at least do it right smh
It’s strange that Bionic isn’t considering that Hippopablompoyeetus could be a wolf here, and does the opposite of what I mentioned above, treating his push as if it inherently has weight. The reference to a previous game isn’t something I’m familiar with, though, so it could simply be that I am missing something.
VOTE: sulit
there is no way almost half day after Sod people won’t check if people voted the person they are voting.
I don’t think this is accurate, and I also think it’s quite a strange reason to push somebody. It reads like a wolf reaching for an “objective” reason to place a vote in order to ground their suspicions.
marlyn’s towny
being aggressive on entrance rand v
I like that bystander’s thoughts pull her forward, and the explanations drag behind in their wake, rather than the reverse.
Morning
Oh, I only read like 200 posts then got bored
damn bionic is mafia
why does he get mafia 12 times and I don’t get any mafia mom said its my turn on the mafia
This is a weak return to thread.
I am getting the sense that I sorta naturally scumread the general style / tone and stuff on this site… which is like it’ll be fun and interesting but now I don’t rly have anything interesting I feel like saying lmao
This post is towny.
Zugzwang my gut thought he was being performative when he started catching up but then he kept doing that more extremely and it kinda won me over. I think his like extreme extreme eagerness at the start is probably villager. for example looking at past games for meta vibes after like 5 posts from the slots in question, even though I disagree with this, AND even tho its like totally easy to fake, I just feel like it is a decent look because wow lol, respect. . tryhard levels that I can’t imagine myself doing are usually town. Also he had a post that was like “tutu are u still here? Are u gonna respond? Please signal to me if you’re going to respond I’m so eager to know” that was like one of the more villagery posts I’ve seen in recent memory
Hippo is honestly p towny lol. Like the un-appeasingness like not feeling need to explain things, not explaining still after being pressed about it, not feeling forced to like come up with some appeasing explanation for everything, all usually villager
Bionic is kinda villager… mainly from their like “I’m trying to help you” interaction with hippo lol. Like I don’t see the benefit as wolf. It’s not a pocket, for example, because hippo was so anti-bionic lol. Like I believe bionic that he was like genuinely like “I’m tryna help you hippopotamus” and if he were a wolf like I don’t rly get lmao
Apo had like a really good moment at the start where I liked bionic voting apo and then Apo liked bionic voting apo. But realistically this slot is like much closer to null than to towny
To talk a bit more about the bionic thing because I’m reading it now less skim-y. He seems legitimately frustrated that hippo won’t offer explanations which is obviously the villager wants to try to solve him pov, and I feel like wolf would just take the chance to shade him like lol not wanting to explain yourself is a scummy thing, haha gross. I feel like bionic could have set himself up to do that and also feels like someone who thinks that would work.
Idk I feel okay leaving my vote on windward, if I still feel like that next time I check in then I can talk abt it
I almost wanted to vote creature for a bit but I feel bad lol
If I were being cynical, I would say this set of posts contradicts my previous logic for townreading sheepsaysmeep: unlike its predecessors, the post clearly attempts to look villagery. However, I also like it a lot. It is well-written and it mirrors many thoughts, and where I disagree, I understand where that disagreements comes from.
I also want to note that I disagree with thread sentiment that marluna pop in was villagery, I think it’s just a pretty scummy pop in lol
My gut take of the day that I’m not actually sure whether I believe. Is that sulit seemed offput by the fact that there were already votes on windward and then moved away pretty soon after. I feel like if I’m town and I vote someone and there’s already a wagon there I like that a lot; I want to be there. Whereas maybe scum is scared of how that looks. Idk maybe also it was like a purely random lolvote idk I can’t tell. But even then I feel like it’s slightly more of a town perspective to want to stay on a wagon
The first post here I have already expressed my agreement with, and the second post is an interesting perspective that I also am considering but feel mixed about. It seems we are of the same mind.
Out of all my messages i just got that i:
- Voted apo for talking too much
- Voted wind for the silly
- Chilled a bit
- Questioned your line of thinking
If i was reading myself, i wouldn’t take any of this as town except the last one
@Bionic well played you’ve escaped again for now but when we are both alive d4 i will resume my push
A wolf does not need to drop this push, as there is nothing Bionic has done that has really directly contradicted Hippopablompoyeetus’s ability to get a mis-kill here.
I see the opposite
while it varies based on individual meta, wolves are more likely to check the votecount more often, from what I know
so it’s towny for sulit to not have noticed
This is actually a good argument, and it does make me disbelieve sheepsaysmeep’s gut argument about the posts being odd. A wolf might also appreciate getting a steady wagon on WindwardAway going to push a mis-kill, if WindwardAway is a villager. It could potentially be paired with WindwardAway, either if sulit did not check the votecount and did not want to push an actual wagon against her partner, or if she was faking having not read the votes and just wanted to make a show of joining and then leaving.
towny post
a wolf with TMI is less likely to get the impression everyone’s wolfy
I agreed with this point above, and in addition to the earlier flurry of posts I neglected to quote, this makes me find Zugzwang even townier.
Im not getting hung this game im town
Ive never been mislynched ever in my fm career of 7 years (have been town vigged and itad a few times as town tho)
This is villagery confidence.
nyaaaaaaaa well
that’s actually a Bionic wolfgame lol
This is an excellent trick, and I find it villagery for both participants: it is not something I think Zugzwang would think to do as a wolf, and the relative carelessness is something that a very thoughtful w!Hippopablompoyeetus might not exercise. The logic is much stronger for Zugzwang here, though.
I think im just ready to let zugwang carry me today he can figure out bionic and bystander and hippo and whoever else until he dies
Good luck have fun
A villagery post.
@Rhea Have you checked in yet? Have you read anything?
Do you have any thoughts?
I was writing this post as you pinged me.
VOTE: SirDerpsAlot
This is spicier
I can see this.
Towny; weird post for a wolf to make to a villager. Something something undisclosed solving thoughts
Unless w/w with hippo thats the next best explanation for the weirdness (to me)
It doesn’t feel like tutuu comes back with a mind to defend himself from the accusations against him, which is nice. There’s a casual attitude that’s evident here, very little nervousness.
Quite a long catch-up today. I will sum up my thoughts in a moment.
sulit posting 4 posts and then going to bed is probably rand!town because they could just not post until tomorrow and stay completely under the radar
Btw guys unironically this is kind of a bad read, which is why tutuu did their post to keep an eye out for luxy. I sort of missed this on initial read through but tutuu was sort of right haha
Everyone piling on me is obviously untrue. Apo voted me because of my first post. Sheep voted me because he decided to listen to hippo. Hippo is voting me because he thinks he can read me
Zugzwang t
sheepsaysmeep t
Apocryphal lt
LittleLee lt
Hippopablompoyeetus lt
sulit lt
Creature lt
tutuu lt
bystander n
Luxy n
Bionic n
Marluna n
Phraze lw
SirDerpsAlot lw
WindwardAway lw
Frostwolf103 ?
Everyone stop listening to hippo in case you were considering it. Hippo does not have a history of slam dunking me. Dont listen to overconfident towns who want to be the carry
ya i dont think the reasons were good
W reads list
@rhea could you explain your tl on Creature? I skimmed your wall again and didn’t catch positive anything mentioning them, might have just missed it though
I dont have the mood or time to thread camp
I usually find this unproductive to note so early in the game, but I feel it is appropriate today, as I have more users listed as “light wolf” than usual: I do not expect this read list to have especially high accuracy at finding wolves. Most of these reads are based off of players I do not know making themselves especially wolfy in their first few posts, which represents a state of failure for a wolf, and thus is a questionable method of making reads. I expect the bottom of this read list to change substantially with some time.
That being said, I have still encountered for the “too wolfy to be a wolf” phenomenon in my thoughts, and this read list does still represent my legitimate current beliefs regarding the game. I am just noting the room for change. If I had to decide an execution this second, this is still how I would act. If you have any questions, please ask them.
I think Tutus last couple posts kinda towny tbh
Why are you confident in your ability to discern its wolfy
Wolfy as opposed to what? What are you comparing it to?
im being pocketed
stop liking my posts
@rhea could you explain your tl on Creature? I skimmed your wall again and didn’t catch positive anything mentioning them, might have just missed it though
It is a fairly light judgement: the list is ordered, Creature and tutuu are only barely above null for me. That being said, I found their complaint of an opener to be something that more likely comes from a villager whose thoughts are wandering than a wolf thinking about what to post. I believe I noted this in the wall.