Ironically feels less real imo
ye
nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa @tutuu is your townread on Wind just based on their aggression / confidence against Luxy here? or is there more that I’m not seeing
I think it’s towny but I’m not as confident as you (and a lot of other people it seems)
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You people really have to stop flattering me.
Yes, I understand. I was describing what I would think about that post if it was made solely in isolation. Zugzwang asks me what I would “usually think is wolfy” about it, not what I “do think is wolfy”. If you’ll look at the second paragraph of that post, I go on to describe the fact that this is not the case in your post, and that you do have a specific opinion on sulit and Luxy’s partnership.
It helped me bring you closer to a townread. I would say I have a light townread on you at this point.
I do tend to do this sometimes, but I find I do it more consistently when I am a wolf and thus am much more careful about how I come across. Not so much anymore, but when I was newer and worse at faking consistent thoughts, I would often re-read my own posts to ensure I remained in line with what I had said before.
This isn’t a read I have, so Frostwolf103, despite what he has said, is coming up with fairly strong reads independent of his townread on me.
He addresses this.
I appreciate this post. It is quite confident.
And I appreciate this post as well.
I do make a lot of reads this way. I find the individual micro-reads of this type to have questionable accuracy at times, but they are the format of reads I find most easy to make on Day 1 and can be effective against certain players. The main reason I still make them is because I find them much more effective when taken as a collective whole: by noting who does and does not consistently try to look towny, one can often find wolves more effectively, and specifically the wolves that the rest of the thread will often struggle against.
I play with the expectation that I am going to be competing against skilled players, and thus try to look for signs of skilled players wolfing. The rest of the thread can handle the easy targets for me. Perhaps if I had applied these principles more consistently, I would have won that final three in the last game we played together.
It is fair enough to find the reads questionable. Please continue to question them.
I did not actually find bystander as somebody who wasn’t trying to look towny. I consistently wolfread her in that game. She was just trying to look towny in a different way from how you or I would do so.
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Perhaps I overestimated my time for this game
Actually I should have time but I’d much rather be reading my books
I’ll go down the easy route and call both Apocryphal and bystander town for having a bunch of posts
Though it slightly concerns me it felt Apocryphal was deliberately spamming earlier
nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I could TR this post for “thought that wolf doesn’t say because they know it’s wolfy to be uninvested like this”
that was my gut instinct
it does depend on how much Creature tends to their appearance as wolf though
I expect this is the read Rhea would make on it 
as for this - taken from the reads list I’m writing rn
(light wolf)
Phraze - I don’t agree with Rhea in 783 that Phraze’s unreasonableness is towny - the argument there is essentially “a wolf would [care more about their appearance / think over their posts more]”, which isn’t true for Phraze, who, regardless of alignment, has not put much effort into this game. I would have them at null (or maybe GTH wolf, I’m going back and forth about whether 772 is wolfy or not), but Wind says Phraze tends to slank as wolf (to my knowledge, they slank as both alignments, but Wind implied they slank harder as wolf - I’ve asked them to clarify).
(lean town)
Creature - Rhea has a decent point in 749, partially quoted below:
But, the read is a “wolf!Creature would hide their thoughts more than they have done here”, which is a trap I’ve fallen into before. Recently, I used this type of reasoning to incorrectly TR Bystander in TADC mafia. Also, Creature’s response to Rhea’s posting doesn’t seem like someone who’s thinking “actually hmmm, you’re right”, like I’d expect town to be likely to go (since, more likely than not, Rhea is in fact right in that world). Still probably >rand town, but only mildly. Rhea also TRs Creature in 642; initially this felt fine to me, but from my experience with Creature, he would most likely be worried about being exed for RVS posting regardless of his alignment (which is what his opener is about), so I find this point null.
I guess I got a bit paranoid about Rhea’s townread on me being based off a single post as it could be construed as a fake read a wolf would make with a ton of explanation whereas town probably wouldn’t bother to read a player off a single post.
But other than this concern I think Rhea looks fine?
well, you don’t really have a lot of posts to read you off of
I have a certain idea of my own playstyle as town and I know I am likely to make these remarks as town therefore I’d maybe try to make that kind of post as a wolf to sound similar to my town playstyle.
It also depends a lot on my time. If I have a lot of time and am motivated to play as wolf then I’d force myself into making reads, otherwise I’ll probably try to “towntell” off a single few posts.
I think I was never a wolf in this site though.
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Yeah I remembered about that.
I am also considering the other side where Rhea is town and is trying to find any single indication of whether I am more likely to be town or wolf so their read on me is fair.
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that’s curious
I wasn’t expecting such posts to be intentionally made as wolf
I’m fairly certain you’re telling the truth about this, considering it’s strange to think of this if it were false, and of course you’d have the usual risk that I go back and check your meta
it also fits with the way you’ve reacted to Rhea reading you off it
I want to say it’s towny for you to share this
but that’s more my reaction of not wanting to lose a townread, and less logic, since as mentioned you’re arguably bound to admit you’d make such as post as wolf, given that I could check meta
@Rhea what do you think
Not the aggression, her reasoning i dig. “You sound like scum caught for the wrong reasons” - i cant recall the last time i saw a wolf use that one. I think wind made a bunch of posts that are >>>rand town. Not specific meta read on her
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To be thorough here on the reads you found questionable, Zugzwang, when I was thinking about Creature’s posts overnight, I came to the conclusion that I do not actually find him particularly towny anymore. I don’t think the reasons I gave to townread him were invalid at the time of making them, but when he showed up to complain about them, he seemed to have time only to do that and not to comment on anybody else. This could come from a demotivated villager, of course, but it still brings him more into a nullread than I had him previously.
Phraze is not particularly villagery to me. I said the way she just dismissed people speaking to her was towny, but I did not mean I townread her off of it, only that I no longer lightly wolfread her as I had been doing before.
These players are both in the same sort of position, where they have shown up mostly to respond to reads on themselves and not to give any kind of independent content. My hope would be that wolves would not play this way (well, my hope would be that nobody would play this way, but I find it more frustrating from wolves than town), but I acknowledge that this is not necessarily the case, and I can easily see one or maybe both being wolves. It is just not the type of read I prefer to pursue.
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I said it because I knew you fucks we’re going to say this (AND I WAS RIGHT)