The Cyberiad Overhaul - GAME OVER - NEUTRAL VICTORY!

[Triss]

Going to yet again emphatically state that that is not an option.

[Crescent]

Trisscar is sure putting in a ton of effort to create distance from me today.

[SultanOfSlam]

Its would literally be a fantastic play would it not?

[Triss]

I would consider it to be extremely poor taste. No.

[Kiiruma]

I could honestly 100% see this but then it’s important to get idot out of the tunnel that the slot’s dug itself into.

So many dead players confirm me in some manner or another, be it via meta, via mech, socials or a combination of them. I need for idot to see it too because otherwise we will just lose.

[SultanOfSlam]

Meh. Ive seen worse tbh

[Triss]

I have tunneled to death worse. Still would not tolerate that from a partner.

[Crescent]

The only way both of us can be scum is if scum specifically has a doctor. A role that Atlas is backing up must exist.

[Kiiruma]

Atlas is backing up a protective it does not necessarily have to be a doctor
It could be a marshal, a jailkeeper, a bodyguard, a doctor…

[Crescent]

For the record I still think I probably had Idot dead to rights on day 2 and this is scum trying desperately to create more paranoia on me today.

[idot]

@idot

Kiiruma is mafia because:

1 ) Tone:

@Kiiruma

Oh lord I don’t know which of them I’d rather dead.
If Achro is 3P then we could just lose if we kill him based on points made.
But if Achro is wolf I’d be so annoyed at myself aaaaaaa

The last sentence is extremely fake. Please imagine him saying it out loud. It sounds extremely awkward and manufactured.

@Kiiruma

Oh fuck me, having to just decide which of the 2 to unbreak a tie. I hate this

So does this. The last sentence here. Awkward. Fake. It drops off tonally. He is afraid to lie. It’s like he’s crossing his arms in front of his body.

@Kiiruma

VOTE: Psyaryu

I can’t shake the feeling that Psy is a wolf who thought they’d just be regularly investigated and so carried the kill, not realise I’d redirect them. It’s the only real thing we have separating Achro and Psy mechanically. I hate this so much

He repeated “I hate this so much” for the third time. It’s starting to become too much. It’s like it’s not natural and he has decides that he wants to hate it.

@Kiiruma

Glad someone is

This is also very fake tonally. He does not sound upset or anxious at all. He very clearly was laughing / was entertained while writing these posts. He was responding to Achromatic in this post.

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2 ) Contributions:

Kiiruma has not voted for a wolf. Him and Crescent avoided participating in voting earlier on. Kiiruma saved Achro and chopped Psy.

Kiiruma has not pushed anyone. He has been an “IC” from day 1 but he has not lead the town. He has played purely reactive, never proactive.

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3 ) Represented emotions:

All of Kiiruma’s defense boil down to: “SirDerp cleared me. Why would you push me? Don’t you dare!”

The emotions he represents don’t match the emotions of a cleared villager who is being pushed when he shouldn’t be. If Kiiruma was town, it would be aggravating. It would be nonsense. He would be town not only because he got cleared, but because he is town. And he is town on his own accord as well. He would react much more strongly to getting pushed.

The emotions that Kiiruma has actually conveyed while getting pushed is just calmly and gently reminding us that he is clear. He keeps putting the onus on SirDerps. He makes the situation to be: “If you scumread me, you think the game is bastard. Did you forget SirDerps is town?”. He never includes himself in this situation.

Here is an example of how I think town!Kiiruma would react to suspicion onto him:

Kiiruma: Wtf are you doing. I’m literally cleared. You are either town for making this insane push or you’re wolf who gets to open wolf because we are about to lose. I fucking hate this. Am I the only person left sane in this game

Notice that my idea of town Kiiruma included:

• stronger emotional reaction
• interest in solving the game. curiosity about the alignment of the person scumreading him

Here is an example of how I think scum!Kiiruma would react to suspicion onto him:

Kiiruma: Need I remind you, fellow gentlemen, that our dearest Sir of Derps claimed that I am a member of the Town? He died, and he flipped town. Surely you wouldn’t want to disrespect our dearest fellow SirDerps, would you now?

Notice the lack of:

• strong emotional reaction
• interest in solving

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4 ) Gamestate

Mafia attempted to win yesterday. Every single non-town member voted Psyaru. Mafia was SUPPOSED to win, if their NK went through. Mathematically. Kiiruma voted Psyaru.

Kiiruma also did not die last night. Mafia allegedly attempted to kill wrongboy. wrongboy is not an IC. Kiiruma is supposedly an IC. If a supposed IC does not die that can mean one thing only, guys.

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5 ) Process of elimination

Sultan is 3p. Achro is Mafia. One of Trisscar / Crescent (should be Crescent) is Mafia. Not both.

That leaves exactly Kiiruma.

It is not me. Not wrongboy. We both have been trying to kill Achro for a while. It is only Kiiruma that hasn’t.

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6 ) Pessimism

I don’t know who SirDerps is. Respectfully, I am not sure how trustworthy of a narrator he is.
This, combined with - I know who Zone_Q11 is. Respectfully, I am not sure how reliable his mech is. People can easily get confused. Frostwolf got confused.

When you combine a potentially unreliable narrator with a slippery surface - I would not be surprised to see them slip and fall flat on their ass.

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That will be all, thank you for your attention.

-t

Reposting my Kiiruma case from yesterday @Crescent @SultanOfSlam

-t

[idot]

@Kiiruma

I can thank you for 1 thing though, yall trying to build me as wolf, is what’s keeping me alive as town.
So… thanks.

This is a really scummy post that I missed when casing.

This does not come from a revealed IC who was revealed on Day 1 and is alive on Day 4.

This shows a way too big of an awareness / focus on how he comes off as, how towny he is. Survival is his focus. His image. There is no attempt to solve other people: “Why are you guys scumreading me?” or “Stop that”. Etc. It is pre-emptively justifying that he will survive until the end game. Which he did. Kiiruma, the Day 1 Innocent Child, surviving all the way to Day 5 MyLo.

-t

[Kiiruma]

Me: Having already responded to it

If you’re town, get out of your fucking tunnel.
And start listening to some other players who have found me as town

[idot]

Let me narrate this as a Journey. A Story.

You are Achromatic. The GOAT. You are currently in 4 ongoing scum games (as claimed by him). You know that you are unlikely to end game. What do you do? What do you always do?

You ask your partners to bus you. You set them up for the late game. (reinforced by May’s evaluation of Achro’s scum gameplay)

Let’s take a look at your role. Very carefully.

@Host_Account_1

You are a [Mafia] “Old” Weakener

Active: Curse of Weakness
Each night, you may target up to three non-Mafia players and apply the “Weak” modifier on them at the start of the next day phase, causing them to die if they were to visit a Mafia member henceforth. If two players were to die this way, then this ability will be locked, and all “Weak” modifiers will be removed.
[However, instead of targeting three other players, you can only target one other player each night.]

Notice the second underlined part. “At the start of the next phase”.

What does that mean? It means that Achromatic is not a killing role.

He does not kill on the same night. His target is alerted, and they can choose to not die. What is Achromatic’s role, then? Let’s take a look at the first underlined part:

“Non-Mafia”

Achromatic knows that he is going to die one day. Even gods don’t live forever. He knows that he will leave spew, that people will read his role PM. What is the most logical way for him to pilot such a role?

Achromatic’s role is a distancing role.

And Achromatic is a distancing player.

Which is more likely:

1 ) Kiiruma is IC town. Achromatic the wolf decides to use his action on Kiiruma the IC town. When Kiiruma the IC town needs to die for the wolves to achieve their wincon. Does he waste resources to visit Kiiruma when his team literally needs to kill Kiiruma in order to win the game?

or

2 ) Kiiruma is Mafia. Achromatic devises a plan. Let me holster N1. I will soft that I gave you weak. You hard claim it. Once I flip, people will read that I can’t visit non-Mafia. You are now clear. Godspeed, little one

I think that the second one is much more logical. If Achro goes around visiting towns too much, he simply spews them as town when he flips by nature of his ability being restricted to non-mafia. I think that the most logical use of that role is to distance. Which fits with Achro’s preferred playstyle here on FoL

-t

[idot]

I am juggling a lot of things.

While I case Trisscar, do you mind casing both Trisscar and Crescent? I missed it, but did you agree that from your PoV those 2 are the wolves?

-t

[Crescent]

@Kiiruma

honestly

I don’t even know what a Marshall is. Scum Jailkeeper simply doesn’t exist. The only protection scum ever generally sees is a doctor.

On a sidebar, Chris was riding you like a dog and actively pocketing me like a madman (originally when it came to voting you), which is yet another point in your favor.

[idot]

Chris tried to kill me repeatedly when it actually mattered - I was 2 votes away from getting hammered at Day 3. You don’t think he tried to kill me harder than he did Kiiruma?

Also - did I not bury Achro? Did Kiiruma not save Achro by voting Psy?

@Host_Account_1

Final Day 3 Votecount

Psyaryu (5): Achromatic, SultanOfSlam, Crescent, Trisscar, Kiiruma
Achromatic (4): idot, Millium, Psyaryu, wrongboy
SultanOfSlam (1): beancat

-t

[Crescent]

I still have zero regrets over that. Psy was either scum or the greatest fraud I have ever played mafia with.

[idot]

@Host_Account_1

Final Day 3 Votecount

Psyaryu (5): Achromatic, SultanOfSlam, Crescent, Trisscar, Kiiruma
Achromatic (4): idot, Millium, Psyaryu, wrongboy
SultanOfSlam (1): beancat

What a funny VC. Every single player who saved Achro is alive. Together with me.
-t

[Crescent]

You got that close?