The Cyberiad Overhaul - GAME OVER - NEUTRAL VICTORY!

Okay but I’m asking because it’s game-relevant. Your frustrations with Psy aside - I do think it’s a logical argument that points to me being town

-t

Yeah. Achro started the wagon on me. You joined. Then beancat and millium joined. Sultan had me at the bottom of his scumreads

I did OMGUS a lot of people, yes. But in my defense the push on me was scum motivated. It came from the Dracula Achro. I did correctly identify that. And I did go crazy, yes. Because nobody was listening to me that Achro is mafia, and he was mischopping me while openwolfing. It wasn’t easy for me to remain sane

-t

All three scum being on Psy might not happen though, it’s a lot of exposure.

Let me narrate this as a Joruney. A Story.

From the perspective of Idot in the infinite tunnel of Kiiruma being a wolf.


You are Achromatic, a wolf who is generally strong and can outright win games from out of nowhere. You know via thread position that your teammate (Kiiruma) is under a lot more pressure than yourself and thus is much more likely to die than you on any given day.

You decide that instead of going for cred and trying to powerwolf, instead of bussing your wolf mate which would provide honestly, a fairly easy win due to town not putting up much of a fight… you instead decide to let yourself take all of the heat and let Kiiruma bus you… without him doing so for days, instead making himself even more suspicious for no reason.

Your role is a killing role. It can be used for FPSing, but it can also be used to neuter town big time.

You’re able to try and use anticlaim against Kiiruma because he does sometimes lie to make himself out to be more powerful than he is, if successful this provides a very easy win and if not then it provides something else which is useful… shade. Why is this IC town alive? It’s such an easy argument to push on and is in itself more effective than killing him off since he’s already not able to really use his ability.

Actually the push on you started with me on day 2. Wrongboy was the only person in the game who actively defended your behavior.

I remember moments of Chris voting you and moments of Chris calling you town, so that was weird.

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Achro not knowing how to handle a teammate’s slot makes a lot of sense to me.

They did. They were gonna win.

The only thing that stopped them from winning is wrongboy drinking the potion.

Mafia had no way of knowing. Nobody knew about any potions

Day 4 started with 9 people. 3 mafia. 2 poisoned town. 1 3p.

If there was 1 less town alive (their NK succeed) → mafia wins by parity

this is evidence by this very game state

we are currently 2 v 2 v 1

We are only alive because wrongboy survived the kill

Mafia all piled up on Psy because they attempted to win the game on the spot


They also attempted to win for the second time yesterday when you self-voted, Crescent. I will go over that in more detail when I case Trisscar very soon

-t

@SultanOfSlam this is a very important question which I need you to answer.
What is your win condition in full?

Do you leave the game once you have fulfilled your win condition?
If so then I don’t see a world ever where Crescent is wolf, since mechanically the game would be under an auto-loss otherwise for town.

And I hate to point this out but if I’m a wolf, in what world would I want Sultan to come out with this so that Crescent can potentially be hard cleared? Lol

My only goal yesterday was to give absolutely zero indication of who I intended to target as a means of making scum uncertain. I still think scum fires at me if they don’t know I can self save, as JK is a devastating role to have alive at this point in the game

well okay thats fine too

even if u stoppped the NK

the point is - they didnt know your role, right?

so from their pov - they mischop Psy → they win the game

all 3 mafia voted Psy

-t

That doesn’t make sense to even try and argue?

Even if wolves get 1 kill on the night of no-deaths it doesn’t mean they ‘always win’ because at the time wolves didn’t know what the 3P does and on top of this doesn’t know what Crescent is. There’s multiple unknown factors that mean that voting Psy isn’t just an autowin, so you trying to argue that is a push in bad faith.

Kiiruma who are the wolves and why

You started the day appealing to me. Asking me to townread u

A few minutes ago you shaded me to Crescent

you are changing your reads very fast

I asked you at the start. Are the wolves crescent and trisscar?

who are the wolves kiiruma

-t

There is sense to this. I targeted Millium like, 10 minutes into day 3, but I knew I could not have blocked a kill there due to the poison. That kill being stopped prevented it from being 2/2 now.

Admittedly if I know we were e entering last night at 2/3 instead of 2/4 I absolutely go for he roleblock instead of the self save.

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Like congrats you weren’t on Psy because you knew Psy was going to go over and flip green. So now you’re arguing… exactly what you’d plan on being able to argue.

Also trisscar is frozen and doesn’t know what to post

all of us have been posting walls. they aren’t posting anything

-t

No one’s been talking directly to me except someone I refuse to interact with. I am however reading.

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not proactively solving in lylo is indicative of one alignment only :slight_smile:
-t

I already figured out who I want to yeet here. It’s not hard when the game is fairly well mechd out already.

Yeah I didn’t stop crap. Trisscar either didn’t send the night 2 kill, or my roleblock doesn’t work on them.

I had no interest in acting on day 1. Wasn’t going to throw out a blind RB 24 hours into the game on 0 information.

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