Town of Salem 3: Traitors Within - Jackals win!

[Hazardwaste]

Ok.

@Kiiruma

I’d probably have started my signalling, as I already have planned out what it’d be.
The idea of… Oh wait, I’m not gonna say that here, am I?

I was more referring to this jokey answer to what i am guessing was marluna’s serious answer.

Starting to explain how you would tell and what you would tell.

[Hazardwaste]

I wish i could think like that. The anxiety of being wrong is to great

[Marluna]

If you think about it, it’s a good answer, to be honest. (Well, it’s NAI, but generally a good answer.)

[Hazardwaste]

Thinking is hard tho.

[Rajidae]

alright im finally here. catching up (and if you dont hear from me in an hour, yell at me pls)

[Hazardwaste]

@Rajidae

i have paid zero attention to the setup so i can’t say if it’s a good idea or not

if everyone else does it then i’m fine with claiming

raji seems just completely uninterested in the game. dont know what this means but someone else may

@Cyanide

If he’s capable of being funny, it shows he’s more comfortable in thread then he first appeared and not nervous like his scumgame
He hasn’t proved otherwise yet

i honestly dont mind this response to my statement

@Hazardwaste

weird exchange. but i dont know if this is w/w weird or just weird.

here. my gut still tells me something is off by cyanide did have a good comeback

@eevee

To have 2 randed and thus invalidated we would have like…

2*15 / (17! / (3! * 14!)) = 30/680 ?
~ 4% chance.

So the ratio at which it skewers results of my initial results would be like 4:96.
And assuming it skewers them up, assuming maximum skewer (impossible one) of 39% (from 61% to 100% chance of Prot existing).
It means 4% of 39%, aka a maximum of 1,5% more chance for Prot existing if I taken it into account. In reality much less.

Just assume it’s 61-62% if you really want it, but it’s too negligible for me to count again what the chance is for this situation to really happen.

and i thought i liked to mech solve. in all retaliation tho this seems… townie? does eevee put this much effort in to protesting for a mass claim if they were wolf?

@Cyanide

Rajidae seems uninformed? I think
Frost feels a bit off
Pigeon isn’t doing anything really
Jarek doing nothing seems worse in his case
Chihiro/Marluna/Kabazame commented on the game starting and left, which feels off
Icet is posting a lot but isn’t really saying much in the posts, if that makes any sense?
The mooglefanclub is fine
Hazard seems okayish
Wazza seems okay too

and here is where my read changes on cyanide. up to hear i was fine but this feels way too hedgy… everyone is fine or okay or meh. like she has neutral views on everyone and trying to be friendly with everyone

@Jarek

So looking back there’s nothing special that jumps out to me in particular but I think the talk about mechanics makes me raise some eyebrows, kinda seems like people there are just talking to talk it doesn’t feel like a real organic conversation. Nothing progressed there just “you talked about mech. Bad.” “Ok”

i think the irony behind this message is that this feels like a filler message talking about filler messages. in short dont like it

@thepigeonnyc

I think I’m having to agree, he sounds like he’s forcing posts out to not look suspicious

dont agree. feel like zorvo’s post flow fine.

(Also forgot i was doing this to follow eevee’s advice and look for jackal calls. fuck)

@Zorvo

And ImpMan.

FUCK HE EXISTS. didnt even know he was in the game

@Kabazame

This is a classic scum post. One town lean, one neutral, one scum lean. All noncommittal and easy to walk back. Feels very forced just to appear active

first call out

@Zorvo

A wolf is a wolf.

no matter how small

@thepigeonnyc

Why are we voting Cyanide? Even if they are mafia, the town would cripple without her posting

dont know if this is a joke or not… i havent really played with pigeon ever

@mooglefanclub

kaba prolly town for dis post nya

love how i can find min through the nya’s

@mooglefanclub

holy shit

I didnt know this was multiball my ass forgor

wtf lmao

sounds legit XD i dont know if min has pulled this type of shit before. but actually how is this the first time they noticed the multiball effect i feel like the jackal was talked quiet a bit before this point.

@mooglefanclub

I know who you are

@Cyanide

I know you know who I am

soap opera plot

@Zorvo

They are usually pretty good player

they have played here once before what do you mean usually?

@Cyanide

Kiiruma will make time, eventually
You know him

to my pervious point with not knowing me and kiiruma are friends. this post shows they know kiiruma before this game.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

No i dont care . You do it you clearly have more time.

If u think my scumtell is “townreading frost” then you do you, go for it. I always defend frost cuz theyre akwyas targetted early for translation issues. Sue me.

Plus its annoying and against etiquette to go under an alt but then just spam a meta acc when clearly you know me but i dont know you. Good luck chief.

i dont think i have seen hippo this upset. i mean i have only played like 3 games with them. dont know what this says tho

@Kiiruma

there’s an excess of cit claims you can say “Well I said it first”

zorvo and kiiruma obviously not w/w from their interactions

@Chihiro

Talking about mechanics isnt like exclusively mafia, but if its something that they are only doing it does look bad.

i like this message.

@thepigeonnyc

I don’t agree with this, I think she’s evaluating the few people who have posted this game

@thepigeonnyc

Honestly looking back at your ISO I have no idea what I was saying, maybe Cyanide is Mafia/Jackal who is trying to get as many town sussed as possible
Taking control of the town might be a bad thing…
VOTE: Cyanide

flip like a light switch i guess

[Hazardwaste]

i feel like i read so much but am still so lost on what to do. i dont like Cyanides later game but their start of game isnt the worse. Zorvo has had rollercoaster of reads for me but i dont think they are scum. pigeon i dont like their interactions all game. hold on

@thepigeonnyc

Why are we voting Cyanide? Even if they are mafia, the town would cripple without her posting

@thepigeonnyc

I think I’m having to agree, he sounds like he’s forcing posts out to not look suspicious
VOTE: Zorvo

@thepigeonnyc

I don’t agree with this, I think she’s evaluating the few people who have posted this game

@thepigeonnyc

Taking control of the town might be a bad thing…
VOTE: Cyanide

like this feels like such a light switch moment its not funny

[Hazardwaste]

hazard talking to the dark again… i miss not having an aussie friend

[eevee]

@Marluna

“Check notes.”

I have definetly used it…
Baker and Kiiruma have done so too.

It backfired way too hard.

huh?

I remember poison having literally 2 PRs lynched.

[eevee]

I will iso Cyanide if he is still a wagon closer to EoD.

[Rajidae]

@IcetFeelsPain

Eevee is town

i agree with this
not because he’s talking about mech but i don’t think he’d go so hard to push the mass claim idea

most of the thread is just mech talk so i’m going to skip over that

@ElizaThePsycho

yo
cyanide gives me inexplicable bad vibes
will have to think this one over

this seems like a T!Eliza post to me
afaik they’re still kind of meek as a wolf (please correct me if i’m wrong) and given Cya’s status back when this post was made she seemed like an aggressive player, and i don’t think Eliza would have the guts to challenge that. unless i’m underestimating her wolf game

i can understand how Cya’s dropping though. but i still hold the notion that the way she was playing early game is town-indicative (and rn i’m going like 70% principles and 30% analysis)

@Cyanide

The mooglefanclub is fine
Hazard seems okayish
Wazza seems okay too

if Cya is a wolf then it’s pretty obvious that she came in trying to powerwolf
not sure what the sudden shift in tone means
smth smth rule of 3

@Jarek

Yeah to be honest I’m not doing much even by my standards, I’m not gonna justify it there’s no excuses here I’m just not active and I’ll fix it

same my friend </3 same. but we’re here to fix our mistakes and that’s what matters

@IcetFeelsPain

I don’t get the Zorvo case as ive never played with zorvo but you’re all pro gamers and I trust your reads

@IcetFeelsPain

this is an 18p game but it feels like a 7p game so idk how to make of it

Icet speaking out my thoughts while i was gone. good vibes <3

[Rajidae]

pretty sure Cya is a she

and ehh i don’t really agree with the wagon. again, principles

[Hazardwaste]

Town lean
Eevee
IceT
Kaba
Moogle
Kiiruma (i am unsure still fully about this choice)

Null
Marluna
Zorvo
Eliza
frost
Raji
Wazza (Tight rope)
Chiro(tight rope)
Hippo (Tight rope)

Scum lean
Imp man
Jarek
Cyanide
Pigeon Nyc

Key:
Tightrope is hazard wording for one slip and they fall to scum :D

I dont like Cyanides late game today but their start of game is giving me butteflies. like they seemed fine to me earlier untill people started pointing things out. Jarek i think i may have tunneled a bit on. And i dont really wanna vote impman for the sake of it… Pigeons quick change of read tho just fucking bugs me. defending then one quick relook and it becomes a push…
fuck why do i fucking play this stupid game all it does is give me anxiety.

[Hazardwaste]

God
fuck it send it goodnight
VOTE: thepigeonnyc

[Cyanide]

@Hazardwaste

Question! you are alt and have been around enough to know hippo and zorvo’s meta (and zorvos name) so you have been around. did you know me and kiiruma were friends before this game? or were you playing a fool here/didnt know.

I not only knew, nor was I playing the jester
Being uncomfortable with someone you know would be more likely to make you scum

[Cyanide]

If I wanted to give a six
Eevee/Hippo/Eliza/Pigeon/Chad/Frost

i’ll be happy if three on that list is scum

[Cyanide]

I don’t think kii/wazza are in their scummeta, at least d1
Icet’s difference from their earlier games worries me
Kaba didn’t return with his iso on me, but nevertheless I have to encourage pushes in such a small game
I liked zorvo’s push on me, but see how he reacts after I die
I like Rajidae’s slot for evident reasons
Hazard is fine enough, for me
I’ve liked the moogle slot of day one
Jarek had a total of one post that I liked, sooo
Marluna/Impman are about the same level

[Chihiro]

Cyanide (4): Hippopablompoyeetus, Kabazame, ElizaThePsycho, thepigeonnyc
Zorvo (2): Kiiruma, IcetFeelsPain
Hippopablompoyeetus (1): Rajidae
Kiiruma (1): Zorvo
ElizaThePsycho (1): Cyanide
Frostwolf103 (1): eevee
Jarek (1): Wazza
thepigeonnyc (1): Hazardwaste

Sorry im here now

[Zorvo]

@Hazardwaste

i dont think him OMGUS’ing you is a wolf tell for him. Can you give me more idea’s on why kiiruma could be a wolf?

Didn’t say it was, I was saying it’s normal for them thus don’t think it’s Townie for them.

@Hazardwaste

i like this post. why does iceT spark more joy in mafia then botc where i am just scared of him constantly

My issue with Ice is their vote on me is flawed.

@Kiiruma

@Hazardwaste

i will say if cyanide does flip wolf i would have a better vision of zorvo

I mean, do bare in mind that this game there are 2 separate wolf factions.
It helps Zorvo be more innocent but it’s not guaranteed.

@eevee

Can next person to post, instead of posting run down 700 posts in thread to check if there was any jackal signaling going on?

I will state (since Hazard already did a bit of this) that Zorvo signalling to me isn’t Jackal signalling to Jackal, as I am not one myself (Wish I was, it seems cool af. Plus then I’d know a mafia member and I’d already planned out ways I was gonna signal everything if I was part of the Jackal team )

These aren’t reads Kiiruma, wtf.

@Kiiruma

I mean, to be fair mafia were convinced I was one of the PRs for a bit in that game.
Worked quite well

Also not fucking reads.

Mother fucker and the rest are other Mech shit and I am skimming and it involves talk about Jackel and I think myself and I think he said I am signalling to them but If I was Jackel, I am not, but if I was wouldn’t that mean he’s claiming to be Jackel aligned?

[Chihiro]

@Hazardwaste

I dont like Cyanides late game today but their start of game is giving me butteflies. like they seemed fine to me earlier untill people started pointing things out. Jarek i think i may have tunneled a bit on. And i dont really wanna vote impman for the sake of it… Pigeons quick change of read tho just fucking bugs me. defending then one quick relook and it becomes a push…
fuck why do i fucking play this stupid game all it does is give me anxiety.

Heres my thing on this, i feel like if there stuff that people pointed out that you didnt notice theres a higher chance in your eyes cyanide is probably fine.