UFO Sighting Main Thread - Game Over (Aliens Win.)

[Achromatic]

Also wolves tried to lynch gyr day 1 in umineko so gyr isnt being touched today. Hes a good player just essentric. Give him time.

[CRichardFortressLies]

@FRink

dont care about lynching a fake vigclaim but if you do go ahead and ill respect that.

But you are not selling me that Gyrlander is a good infolynch. I will not buy that product. Also he had like 35 posts of fluff last night when the votes moved towards him.

Ok if you don’t buy Gyr is the best wagon, then do you think Porscha is a better wagon aka train?
Your vote on Magnus tells me you want a train on them.

[Achromatic]

I have to account for your knowledge of my wolf game to counter that in the wars to come.

[Litten]

anyway
I’ve done more than I wanted to d1
I’m happy with how everything is going so far
You guys got this
Ect ect

I’m going to go sleep now and wake up to a mafia execution

[KingTroll]

okay gn for real. now that I am obviously town people have permission to townread me do not make more than five hundred posts I want to catch up before EOD if I’m awake for it

[Achromatic]

[CRichardFortressLies]

@Achromatic

I have to account for your knowledge of my wolf game to counter that in the wars to come.

Not a bad idea.

[FRink]

Night guys you guys that are out. Ill lurk for like 3 hours because ive got some stuff to work on.

[Achromatic]

Also cant wait for leafia to show up and say magnus sussing her without a vote earlier was wolfy and she was right sod.

I can feel it in the air.

[min]

@Achromatic

min (3): FRink, Achromatic, Gyrlander

@Achromatic
I think ur town now rn can u get this wagon of me pls thanks

[min]

im too tired but I dont wanna be miselimed d1 that shits so embarrassing lmao

[CRichardFortressLies]

@alana

porsha is tbh someone who i dont remember any posts from

Probably not with Porscha. When I see someone say in thread they don’t remember another player, it’s a good sign they aren’t teamed.

[Achromatic]

Ok done

[CRichardFortressLies]

@min

im too tired but I dont wanna be miselimed d1 that shits so embarrassing lmao

You probably aren’t getting lunched today, when there are slots such as Porscha around.

[Leafia]

@alana

This is a bit omgusy but im townreading leafia less than before after they jumped on Magnus’ suspicion on me. The difference here is that Magnus’s and Rad’s pushes on me have felt authentic and had their own reasons while Leafia was just jumping on because of Magnus

Can’t sleep and I can honestly understand that. That being said, I can no longer even remember why I voted you in the first place. I only even dimly remember doing so honestly.

I also don’t think it’s OMGUSy.

@min

I forgot your list was backwards lmao

I forgot that too at first. Laughs

@Achromatic

Magnus is town. His wolf game isnt this good.

I think Magnus is a pretty good wolf most of the time actually. Plus, he hasn’t really been doing much if any solving. Not ready to call him scum just yet though.

@Magnus

There is no good response to this.
Either I agree and discredit myself, or I disagree and act defensively.

I think you have a pretty good wolfgame Magnus.

If you had disagreed with Achro, I’d say that would’ve been worth villager points honestly.

@FRink

But you’re a blast to play with and we operate with the same goals in mind. <3

Definitely agree to Achro being really fun to play with.

@Achromatic

UNVOTE porscha

Just so no early oops hammers

Good idea knowing this site honestly. I approve.

@Achromatic

@Litten

Whatcha think. Horror game monster sound right for how people should perceive me?

I’d agree with that for one.

@FRink

so why cant we have competing wagons with them instead of the retracted vig claim who might get shot by the hardclaiming vig

Not a bad idea honestly.

@Achromatic

Also cant wait for leafia to show up and say magnus sussing her without a vote earlier was wolfy and she was right sod.

I can feel it in the air.

No idea if I was right or not yet honestly.

@min

im too tired but I dont wanna be miselimed d1 that shits so embarrassing lmao

We know. You don’t have any votes on you right now.

[min]

@Host_Account_2

• @min
• @Magnus
• @Neon
• @Achromatic
• @KingTroll
• @Porscha
• @Leafia
• @Gyrlander
• @Litten
• @Jarek
• @Rad
• @CRichardFortressLies
• @alana
• @FRink

gth legacy

town
poe
town
town
poe
poe
poe
town?
poe
town?
town?
town
town?
poe

poe doesnt mean I scumread u necessarily it just means I have no opinion on you which also means you have a chance at being scum

but unironically I feel like poe absolutely contains at LEAST 1 scum but probably has more
town? has 1 at most

I can obviously be wrong but yeah lol

[FRink]

I really dont care for the porscha wagon tbh. I cant remember a single thing theyve typed and i dont remember ever seeing that as a reason someone else voted them. Which means its founded in uncertainty at best or opportunism at worst.

Ill tell you something about my magnus vote tho, since it applies specifically to you. When i was catching up throughout the thread there were 5 slots that pinged me. Of those five, you and Magnus comprised the two that felt whack tone-wise and had small footprints in the thread. The difference being, you actually had a wagon form on you and he didn’t.

Why do you think that is?

[Magnus]

@Achromatic

@Magnus why kingtroll for a vote? I dont think there is a lot or scum equity there. Explain.

Eh, I just wanted to leave my vote on someone overnight since it was about time, and KT hadn’t being making any waves prior to that point from what I had seen.

@Achromatic

Also @Magnus read list in full please.

What list?

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Response

@KingTroll

i think this is a perfectly reasonable thing to say but if magnus flips non-town at some point reason to believe that some of this information is false

On the contrary, in ‘80s I predicted three Mafia and one neutral, because that’s what I knew and expected. Unless something is terribly wrong, there shouldn’t be any more than three evils, and my flip wouldn’t necessarily change that. If I’m Neutral, that just means there can’t be specifically 0-2 neutrals. Are you sure about that?

@KingTroll

i can find a world where this is attempting to drive a wedge between t!jarek and t!leafia while trying to buddy with t!ahcro, or distance if one of jarek/leafia is wolf. i don’t think magnus/achro is ever w/w though this is a blatant pocket on achro

You seemed to miss other posts which could be construed as pocketing.

@Magnus

If you’re sure about that, alright. There’s always time for us to form a definitive opinion.

This post, for example, depending on how you interpret “us”. Am I talking about the Town, and I trying to align myself with Achro, am I trying to align myself with Town, why are you assuming you’re talking to a good player… I know I’m good, but this should illustrate why a case can be made on anyone, at any time, if you squint your eyes at it.

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@KingTroll

i don’t get the point of this. “leafia played like a wolf [here]” followed by “leafia has changed as an evil so their meta doesn’t matter” so like. what’s the point, magnus. why’d you bring any of it up if you think none of it matters. are you just shading leafia for no reason

At that point in time, Achro had given Leafia a pass because she “had a higher clarity of mind” or something to that extent. I was bringing it to Achro’s attention, specifically because he said it, that Leafia’s “meta”, the one he seemed familiar with from Morb and Kaguya, were no longer reliable.

@KingTroll

i don’t like this because no matter how leafia answers it’s grounds for you to continue scumreading them here

I would’ve scumread Leafia if she said “no, it’s simply impossible”, because that would’ve seemed a falsehood fmpov. If I could continue scumreading Leafia after that response regardless, you’re welcome to find signs of me either attempting or forgetting that path.

@KingTroll

okay. don’t know if you did this so you’d have something to push against as a defense in advance or if it was just a joke but hi i’m here now

Yep. KT’s tunnelling me, this case is through a biased lens assuming I’m evil, and even in this same post KT mentioned a couple good points, which shows my behaviour can’t be contextualised as being entirely evil; but please, go ahead. I was almost afraid I’d have no pressure for all the first day again.

@KingTroll

this isn’t openwolfing this is just a joke. given how you’re pushing leafia for… reacting seriously to a joke by jarek uhhhhh what’s your idea with that sort of hypocrisy

I’ll show you examples of Leafia doing the same in other games, then.

@Leafia

Pretty sure I’m a villager here. Checks card to be sure Yup. I’m a villager.

See? Shows card

Leafia’s card: Wolf Villager.

Ignore the crossed out text.

@Leafia

I admit it. I’m a eolf. My teammates are Trochi and Geyde.

@Trochilidae @Geyde We should concede right now. This village is too skilled for us.

@Leafia

I already look townie. Pretty much everyone but you has me at a townlean at the worst. If I was a wolf and you were a villager, it would’ve been extremely easy for me to get you misexed without looking at all bad for it when I tend to get into de as thtunnels at times as a villager. I’m practically famous for it.

@Leafia

@Neon A wolf in your position extending a peace offering seems really weird to me honestly, so I’m willing to entertain the possibility that I’m wrong about you being a wolf. If you want to prove that I’m wrong about it, please help us execute the caught wolf in May. Should she somehow flip town, I even offer to be the first to vote in lylo. In fact, I insist on it.

@Leafia

You’re not a wolf. I’m a wolf! Shows off my nice fur I use a special fur conditioner to keep it so shiny.

@Leafia

From this point on, villagers will refer to the evil faction and wolves to the good faction.

Compare that to this and tell me it wasn’t worth pointing out:

@Leafia

Although I do admit to being a former alien. From the U.S. I moved here to Canada three weeks ago and became a citizen here, so now I’m just another villager. How’d you know though? Is it my accent?

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@KingTroll

questioning another person without adding anything of value

Don’t you get it? Because aliens descend from above? …Nevermind.

@KingTroll

questioning another person without adding anything of value

That’s my line, but you’re right. I’m not adding anything there, or there, or there. However, sometimes it’s hard to find there’s a difference between questions to figure out the root of someone’s thoughts, and questions to turn attention over to them. I suppose it’s up to you whether or not I’m trying to learn or distract.

@KingTroll

weird meta talk to disparage a vibe read when i’d argue that a vibe read is actually stronger than a meta read

Vibe reads are just reads without any evidence to back them up. This time I was challenging Leafia’s reasoning, and fishing for responses.

@KingTroll

if someone is sussing past activity then it is the right to defend it. and by defending it you make new content so. what’s the point

There is no point. While you’re making new “posts”, sure, when you defend past content you’re simply adding to that old interaction, instead of making new interactions. You don’t have to agree, but that’s my perspective on the matter.

@KingTroll

not ai but use your vote. guys use your vote. if you’re not voting anyone your vote does nothing. try to make someone sweat

Wield not your vote without caution.

@KingTroll

@Magnus

I’m also not allowed to vote Leafia any more without being accused of OMGUSing, so… there’s that.

i feel like at this point you would have a case to vote leafia regardless of their own vote on you at the time. kind of weird that you would say ‘oh well i can’t continue my case on someone who’s acting scummy because they voted me’ instead of just. pushing forwards

I said I wasn’t allowed to vote, not continue my case if I deigned to do so, and I already wasn’t planning to vote Leafia. You could say it was a joke, but it also linked to Leafia accusing Jarek of OMGUS, so it held a little more weight.

@KingTroll

@Magnus

Leafia made a pressure vote, claiming to have taken a joke seriously, and saw an OMGUS vote as being suspicious. Leafia then says Jarek misrepresented her argument, but ultimately null town leans Jarek, apparently backing off because Jarek’s wrong, drawing a comparison to Jaiden when she was completely right that game. So the comparison doesn’t hold up, either.

feel like this is a bit of a misrep of what leafia was saying as well as just. so much depends on some sort of meta read that i do not think either leafia or magnus should be putting this much weight on at this point

If it’s a misrepresentation, how did you interpret these events going down? You don’t have to answer this.

@KingTroll

@Magnus

I counterclaim Neon btw, but I’m still getting good vibes so we keep her alive anyway.

@Magnus

Fourteen players. Rolemadness. Duplicating roles is a waste of creativity, unless two roles are designed to interact together or something. But it’s more likely they’re all unique.

@Magnus

If I was serious I most likely would’ve thunderdomed you immediately; I would not have gone with the equivalent of “oh yeah, I’m totally that role, but you’re still fine despite being caught fakeclaiming innocent child”.

i really don’t get what the logic was behind this. they say it was a joke but like??? you try to justify it first for some reason all it ended up doing was getting neon to vote you for a moment and nothing else

When Forum Mafia takes this long, sometimes you need to pad your posts to lighten the mood. As a matter of fact, I might amend what I might have done, given a minute to think about it first.

1. Either thunderdome if I was real, Neon should’ve backed off if it was a vet bait or push me otherwise, in which case I would’ve assembled a case beforehand. Hope I’m healed or I die.
2. If I actually got good vibes, I just wouldn’t have said anything and waited to claim. I would not have waited, counterclaimed and retracted soon after. So I’m clearly not the Singer, that shouldn’t have been in doubt for a second. Neon was inherently more trustworthy there.

As for why… because I can. All the world’s a stage.

@KingTroll

only i can use dice to accuse people!!! what is this are the dice cheating on me

Don’t worry, I’m using a D20. You’re using a D14.

@KingTroll

questioning another person without adding anything of value

True, but I did say why I was asking, and it wasn’t for this game. Maybe it’s AI, maybe not, I can’t say for sure, but it’s a weird point to bring up unless it’s theatre with Jarek or something?

@KingTroll

if it was just a good question why did you only specify jarek to answer it

Because Jarek was there, or something.

@KingTroll

this is a good question though so i won’t make my funny copypaste. however it still puts the burden on gyr over magnus to make the funny content

Since I have plenty of funny content, I’ll hope you’ll pardon my indiscretions.

@KingTroll

this is a really weird way to read this post too. at d1 sometimes just admitting you don’t have a horse in the race instead of trying to force a read on someone isn’t a bad thing

I didn’t need to reach for this interpretation, it was just the first thing in mind. Seemed very obvious to me.

@KingTroll

not really a lot of evidence to outright state that we can’t be w/w. it’s just a throwaway vote anyone could do it

But you voted really early, so I trust it more retroactively.

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@KingTroll

if magnus is a wolf they’re regretting asking me to tunnel them if i dared rn

I could see this. An evil would hate being suspected.

@KingTroll

good night lads. no idea if i’ll be awake for eod so uhhh i’ll flip a coin and see if i leave my vote on porscha or magnus

Make your own luck.

Response posts shouldn’t take this long how do you spam wallposts?

[FRink]

Shoot your shot and the wagon won’t be back. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[CRichardFortressLies]

@FRink

I really dont care for the porscha wagon tbh. I cant remember a single thing theyve typed and i dont remember ever seeing that as a reason someone else voted them. Which means its founded in uncertainty at best or opportunism at worst.

Ill tell you something about my magnus vote tho, since it applies specifically to you. When i was catching up throughout the thread there were 5 slots that pinged me. Of those five, you and Magnus comprised the two that felt whack tone-wise and had small footprints in the thread. The difference being, you actually had a wagon form on you and he didn’t.

Why do you think that is?

From experience, if I can’t remember anything a slot has said or done in game. Those slot/s are more likely than not wolves. As anyone I town read/lean is someone I’d definitely remember.

Now that you mention it, it is interesting that Magnus wasn’t considered as a wagon while I was put up as a wagon.
If I were to make a guess on why, it would be that out of Magnus and myself. I’m apparently more memorable that Magnus was.