If you’re going to kill me or attempt to push me off of what I percieve to be an extremely unlikely world (from a town in general perspective) you can go for it. For my part in things I’m not even going to achnowledge it because literally how would one argue against “but this totally could have happened!!” other than saying that no, that didn’t happen.
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It’s certainly possible.
I will say in the case of mafia submitting a kill on me it’s logical in the sense that I am a mechanical mind who often uses mechanical optimisation when possible. Furthermore mafia would think me as a safe kill. However, I am typically misexecuted in games, so I’d think that would be the avenue I’d follow if I was looking at a player similar to me while I was a wolf.
However, I just think Jarek is… relatively towny to me. So I’m not exactly liking the idea of you saying Jarek’s done a slip.
I have never been the most convincing voice in any given game because I don’t enforce my demands like if I don’t get my way the game will collapse and end immediately, but I honestly do believe if we deviate from “1 wolf on chomps wagon 1 wolf off-wagon” then we’re just going to make this game harder for ourselves.
My world doesn’t eliminate me as a possible suspect - I was on the chomps wagon, via my own PoE I am literally in it. You can vote me off at your leisure, because if I am correct then the wolves are boxed in and the game solves itself, hence I don’t mind being in my own PoE.
If everyone on the chomps wagon somehow ends up being town then we can consider what benefit the mafia may or may not have gotten from voting their own teammate and putting them in jeaprody that ended up killing them.
The same can be said off-wagon. I’m more than happy to Avoid killing the players who had a part to play in killing that wolf simply because I struggle to find any good reason for them to have done so. Maybe, MAYBE you can say that they thought chomps would stop self-voting and panicked. That’s possible - but the people who ended up placing votes, well I have a bit more faith in them as players than to get that scared that they kill their teammate immediately.
I don’t think anyones arguing the mafia were sitting there with smug grins on their faces like masterminds as their teammate got voted and went over due to a tie vote. They didn’t plan that they certainly didn’t want that, and that’s (probably) fact
To be perfectly open here, after what Kiiruma has revealed about Leafia’s ability, I don’t think the world is especially likely. I am not sure Leafia would have used a bodyguard ability on Kiiruma specifically when the last mention of him I can find in her posts is a wolflean.
However, I still feel obligated to investigate it, not because I want to find you, Jarek, as wolfy, but because I want to find you villagery by contradiction. If the kill was submitted on Leafia, I do not think you would have forgotten that she was dead if you were a wolf, and I do not think you would have pretended to believe she was alive for as long as you did in those circumstances that you did. Clearing this possibility up means removing reasons I would have to not townread you.
I’m not shutting it down because I want to stop people reading into it one way or the other but because it’s just going to devolve into a slapfight, which won’t really go anywhere, really?
That being said, that’s cool, I get where you’re coming from I think but I don’t see how there’s much to read into with this any more. Either me saying I wouldn’t be dumb enough to forget who I was night killing as a wolf will convince you or it won’t but aside from my word about how I am in games, there’s nothing else to say about it from my perspective
If you want to read me and I’m doing this from your perspective so we’re assuming I could be good or bad, I think looking into how I’ve acted around the wagons (which is really all I’ve been talking about all day) is where I’d look. Maybe you can make connections based on who I’m going after (sultan) versus who I’ve decided not to go after (such as you, for example, despite being in my PoE).
Anything I can point out about myself inherently makes it less reliable because it’s possible it’s breadcrumbs I’ve left as an evil for town to find believing it to make me look good. But it generates discussion and I don’t really care if people suspect me for it.
I’d point out how I feel I’ve been spoken about a lot today as opposed to literally anyone else but that’s probably because nobody else has really bothered to rock the boat or do much of anything. No offense to anyone else of course.
im chilling
We can change that. VOTE: Chomps.
I think I’d rather see sultan you or maybe beancat go over me thinks
I feel the way Chomps has behaved isn’t in line with what I remember from playing with Bionic as a villager. I also feel that Chomps being a wolf would make the way yesterday’s vote went over make more sense, and I felt that the self-vote was unreasonable and unrealistic.
tbh if chomps is a wolf then that just reinforces my opinion that the third wolf is also voting on them because they would have very obviously wanted chomps gone over any other wolf partner.
Idk if I believe that.
Throw them in the PoE if you really want but keep your eyes on the prize
Oh, these wagons are atrocious. Nevermind, then. VOTE: Ishmael.
Day 2 Votecount
Ishmael (2): Magnus, Rhea
SultanOfSlam (1): Jarek
Kiiruma (1): SultanOfSlam
Jarek (1): lol
beancat (1): Chomps
Not Voting (5): Aleph, beancat, Frostwolf103, Kiiruma, SirDerpsAlot
wait we’re all dumb
VOTE: Life
the game is solved