Weekly Monday Discussion #4 - User Presence

but without moderating it there’s nothing stopping this repeatedly happening? i only became aware of this because someone let it slip probably when they didn’t mean to

by moderating it, i mean something as simple as the host asking for a reason and making a judgment based on that

i think thats completely fine, by moderating it i thought you meant like literally snesing a mod in to look and judge

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I’m just not really happy with the way things work normally that is wolves can say they don’t want the chat being released, without giving a reason, and the host not being able to or not thinking they should challenge it

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I mean i think that just comes from the fact the host is not the people who are directly involved in the scum chat, and i do think that generally if someon3 says they dont want acum chat released they have a good reason. The reason you outlined Was Not one and i think that should be a mod issue honestly

Im fairly certain there was a discussion at some point about either hydra/mafia chats not being released where there was something said about how you shouldnt be allowed to not reveal maf chats under the singular reason of not wanting people to read you for content in there bc ur then giving people who are in that scumchat an advantage, might be misremembering and i wanna say it came from after the first hydra vig 10er

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in the first place it’s a flawed concept because security through obscurity is a bullshit concept and the entire thing falls apart if you just
play against someone who wolfed with you before and thinks the info they got out of that chat is worth sharing in another game

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I mean I know for a fact we released scumchat and Arete/my hydra chat for that one

And yeah part of the reason it sucks is because it, relatively inevitably, leads to more he-said-she-said scenarios like this down the line

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Im p sure we didnt release scumchat? Might be misremembering

I think one of the main factors is that hosts don’t want to be The Villain and go against people’s wishes to keep things private - it can be difficult to be that person

I think it might help if, in one of those instances where the host doesn’t feel comfortable releasing it anyways, they can come to a moderator so we can talk to the players and resolve it in their place

I personally would be willing to do this

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I think generally giving people time to delete/separate channels to get rid of but reserving complete non-release for actual exceptional circumstances where the personal content can’t be removed is a good compromise here.

…It’s why I originally had my Mayposting channels, but I ended up deciding I was fine with keeping those around.

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This exact discussion is happening in mucord right now and nobody here prompted it

What the heck

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glad im not there

It makes me glad that our monday discussions happen on a forum - where people take more time to form their thoughts and send messages

So easy to talk over eachother on discord

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Oh?

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my problem has manifested in the minds of MU’ers

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im so sorry for MUers

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This was really funny

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There were people to troll
So I went

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Oh. I thought your joke was:

Chloe: im glad people here are taking their time to form thoughts
Litten: oh, we are?

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Your interpretation is a lot funnier so we shall go with it

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