Wrogn 2 - MAFIA VICTORY

[BradLand]

I’ve sorta realized that reading stuff on my phone on here is way easier for me than reading on a laptop.

[BradLand]

Town:
Tuutuu
May
Soweli

Townlean:
Chomps
Leafia
Creature
Zugzwang

Sooo yeah back up to this only change is Sheep is back on townreads spot.

[spookycat27]

@May

@spookycat27 Do you like your role? Don’t tell me what it is. Don’t tell me anything about it. Just tell me if you like it or not.

I’m neutral toward it

I don’t dislike it, I also wouldn’t say I particularly like it? it’s a role, and I have it, and it’s mine

[Leafia]

This wagon composition has a high chance of exeing a wolf I think.

@BradLand

@Chomps @Leafia

Listen I’m like decently sure Creature is town here, might not be a good yeet Day 1 at least. Maybe vote somewhere else please?

I’m almost certain Creature isn’t a villager here with how they treated my slot. Creature is the best D1 exe I think.

@BradLand

If I don’t then yeah prolly don’t vote Creature out today.

If Creature flips wolf, this will be where I’ll be looking next.

[Zugzwang]

@BradLand

Okay… um…

@soweli @Zugzwang Why are you both listing Spooky in towns in some way?

I’m… not

@Zugzwang

I think Spooky prefers playing town, and is therefore a bit more likely to slank as wolf (this was definitely true when comparing Spooky’s activity in the hydra games we played), but I searched our DMs and couldn’t find them saying that so I might be making that up

The difference between the hydra games could also be Spooky just being tired of rolling wolf at the moment, rather than an overall trend (before Zone’s testament, Spooky had rolled wolf a lot of times)

here’s my thoughts on Spooky (overall slightly >rand w)

[Zugzwang]

@tutuu

I think that she cares less about surviving when she’s town.

how much of this is based on Kakegurui, and how much on Vote-a-Life

@Aleph

if i didnt blow my brains out woulda have to sub out due to flu

Kakegurui probably isn’t a good example considering this (unless they happened to get flu right after dying? regardless I think I got the impression from somewhere that they don’t usually slank like that though)

[Zugzwang]

@May

“Worse reception as town than as mafia” is imprecise and IMO is the kind of thing you need to justify with a cause. Why does she have a worse reception as town than as mafia? Is she lower effort (we’ve discussed this, no), does she give less confident or more unconventional reads, is she more combative, is it the effect of mafia not pushing her as an easy misexecution, etc.

Like what “reception” somebody gets is influenced very heavily by the other players in the game so you can’t really cite it as alignment-indicative unless you can point to what causes that reception I think it’s kind of bunk

@tutuu

I think that she cares less about surviving when she’s town.

@May

Okay cool. And you think she hasn’t cared about surviving enough here to be a wolf?

@tutuu

Yeah. I think she hasn’t.

thbthtbhtbthb there’s an interesting tonal thing in tutuu’s posts here, compared to the others
it very much… fits into a mental picture of, like, a timid tutuu learning to be confident

[Zugzwang]

@Zugzwang

thbthtbhtbthb there’s an interesting tonal thing in tutuu’s posts here, compared to the others
it very much… fits into a mental picture of, like, a timid tutuu learning to be confident

mmmmmmmmmmm
I could argue “t!tutuu wants to actually start sounding confident, while w!tutuu only wants to do that if there’s w!Aleph”
IDK how much I believe that but I think it’s >rand true

[Zugzwang]

…does Brad play a lot of turbos

[Zugzwang]

(I am trying and failing at finding their MU profile)

[Zugzwang]

nyaaaaaaaaaa ok I have to go now
will be back before EOD though

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

Was coming down with the flu in the second half of D1 here iirc

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

I think creature/brad are w/w if one of them flips red

Creature just seems overly weird in their posting

Brad’s defense of creature is suspect

Flipping one of them would be ideal today and Creature makes more sense
VOTE: Creature

also do agree in principle that 22 sounds totally off to how they usually are but so far i find it NAI, but def something to keep an eye on overall

[SirDerpsAlot]

@May

@SirDerpsAlot You’re locktown. I’m not kidding. You’re controlling my vote today, who am I voting and why? Crucially, you don’t have to actually feel confident in this vote, I don’t care if you think I know better than you, I still want you to control my vote. It changes how everybody else behaves around

Idk yet let me cook briefly while I have a brief bit of downtime

[Creature]

What an outing post

VOTE: Aleph

[Creature]

Ftr these are the wolf games BradLand is using to defend me here:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/49865-Hydra-Event-2024-Game-6-Slay-the-Spydra (I was Svirfneblin with Garden Gnome as hydra partner)

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/49948-Hydra-Event-2024-Game-7-A-Poor-Approximation-of-Poor-Approximations-of-Poets (I was Frankenkirb with Variance as hydra partner)

[Creature]

I hate pointing my bad wolfgames but I feel like it is relevant to explain why BradLand is townreading me here: I’ve already posted 300% more content than those games I linked.

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

self pres vote is obvious but i would do the same in ur position so no points taken off

[Creature]

@Aleph

self pres vote is obvious but i would do the same in ur position so no points taken off

I take no issue with you voting me for selfpres either, but I take an issue with you calling me/Brad w/w and calling me the ideal flip.

[Creature]

It also makes you hardpaired with Leafia who is using the exact same argument and has done zero town consideration on figuring out my alignment, but is rather pushing me like it’s part of her win condition to push whoever is not part of her wolfteam.