So his only scumread is Spooky. Derps agrees. Can we make a wolf team for Spooky that excludes Ash?
Like … Spooky Chomps? Spooky Marluna? Spooky Leafia?
So his only scumread is Spooky. Derps agrees. Can we make a wolf team for Spooky that excludes Ash?
Like … Spooky Chomps? Spooky Marluna? Spooky Leafia?
Let me see which of these he townread. If he townread them all Im just not seeing it. If he didnt then maybe thats the team if he’s town
Towny on all
Well Ash if youre town I think youre wrong on one of those. And correct on spooky maf
Imo:
Tutuu
Creature
Zug
Derps
Marluna
Chomps
Spooky
Leafia
Ash
If Ash flips town, Spooky should die next, not Leafia
And if Ash flips Mafia I would personally prefer Leafia before Spooky but Spooky first is fine too
In an F3 with Derps, Marluna, Chomps I would kill Chomps
I kinda forgot about chomps
I want to use this to establish the two key elements of Soweli’s strategy:
Keeping themselves and their teammates out of scrutiny, and as part of that…
Attempting to appease town leaders
We see both of these with this post:
With the context of w!Soweli, this post kinda feels like Soweli is attempting to throw shade on Zugzwang without antagonizing them, appeasing their inquiries without actually taking a stand.
This continued fear of antagonizing Zug, where Soweli is attempting to stay under the radar and avoid OMGUS, is not only unpairing to me, but it demonstrates how Soweli approaches their role as mafia.
Appealing to Tutuu with the idea of, “I can be useful.” Combined with:
My guess as to Soweli’s progression is that Tutuu is a town member they were hoping to pocket who ended up becoming a town leader. Thus, we can see Soweli treat this slot similar to Zug’s slot, attempting to appease without fighting.
There’s also this from D2:
Which, in my eyes, serves to further distance Tutuu and Soweli.
This just seems like clear unpairing. Soweli’s approach here is attempting to fuel a fire, the simple approach. And I would argue that said simple approach rears its head with a Derps interaction:
These sound like serious suggestions, especially given the game state in which these were posted. To toot my own horn here, I’d told Derps to just RNG it while Soweli seems to hope that Derps targets someone in the PoE. In this way, Soweli was clearly attempting to influence Derps’ actions in such a way that it would be as non-detrimental to mafia as possible. On that note:
Given that Ishmael and Brad/Litten have both flipped town, I would wager Leafia is also town, which is why Soweli put her on the list of people Derps could target.
This also tracks with this interaction, where Soweli feels the need to defend herself from Leafia’s lock-in.
There is maybe an argument for pairing on this slot, namely from these two posts:
the best takes this game (…Marluna is second )
Marluna is still at a “wouldn’treally object to a hanging later on” position but I feel good enough about the slot
However, given the established trend of Soweli attempting to appease town leaders, as well as Marluna being among the most townread players in the game, I’m inclined to view this less as pairing and more as Soweli viewing Marluna as a town leader to be appeased.
Under that lens, Soweli appears to also be trying to get townread by being helpful.
There’s a maximum of 6 hangs (F-13 to F-3 is 5 hangs assuming no PRs + 1 more in LYLO hence you need at most 6 people in PoE for game to be locked = 7 people in towncore
post #87 @ uh whoever it was that subbed in and name was a bunch of letters in an order
The latter argument is, admittedly, a bit of a stretch, but I would argue that it fits within the context of Soweli’s train of thought.
I pretty much agree with the rest of the list besides i’d probably put spooky higher
ooh good point i should’ve said that
i’m just saying that (aside from my other feelings on spew in general) I don’t go into antispew when I wolf, just because of like the truth or something idk (Idon’t really know why I said that and am attempting to justify it in retrospect)
This feels pretty pair-y with Spooky, especially in tandem with what I said earlier about Spooky helping guide Soweli through the heavy suspicion (and later, the redcheck). And going back to their own strategy on how they deal with town leaders:
they’re from Hypixel & have played on MU
This seems to suggest that Soweli was trying to keep Spooky from sticking out to Tutuu as “a new player”, likely as a means to keep Spooky under the radar.
why would you claim your rolename at that point
upon a rigorous re-reading i have determined that this is a towny mindmeld
I kind of like chomps but I don’t know if it’s like in a I think he’s towny way
Soweli’s treatment of Chomps’ slot is weirdly friendly, and that matches the PoE of being unpaired with everyone else besides Spooky. As such, I want to look into Chomps as being a potential #3.
Soweli’s approach to mafia is defined by its simplicity: stay under the radar, keep your teammates under the radar, and appease town leaders to avoid being caught. Under this lens, Soweli has distance from every living player in the game, save for Spooky and Chomps. As such, I propose that the mafia team is Soweli-Spooky-Chomps.
madness
VOTE: Ash
VOTE: Chomps
Ash (4): tutuu, Marluna, Creature, Chomps
spookycat27 (1): Leafia
Chomps (1): SirDerpsAlot
Not Voting (3): spookycat27, Ash, Zugzwang
Im not certain either. But its the correct play, imo. May and Kyubey were vocal about killing Ash. Kyubey was the most vocal about Ash. I think its incorrect to not sheep night killed villagers more often than its correct. Ive won more mafia games by sheeping NKed villagers than games where I tried to solve on my own
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has this still held true for you in closed games? because in here, wolves have their kills obscured by doc dodges and other mech issues.
personally, when spectating (as an informed player), I find it much much easier to predict the nightkill in an open setup than in a closed one
IDK much about who was a likely protection target N1, but soweli evidently thought you were (hence the claim of protecting you)
And IIRC I was topposter (maybe barring Chomps? IDRM, but also I think we can remove Chomps from this equation regardless)
which leaves May as the most influential player who’d not be under protection*
*unless there was also a reason to protect May? I was thinking about who to investigate so that wasn’t relevant
Chomps is an Arsonist confirmed
you’re dying tonight
this time for real
its openwolfing smh
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awoooooo
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How confident are you on this? (Relative to your usual level of confidence in reads, and relative to your scumread on Spooky)
and - how did you write this? Like, can you walk me through your thought process of where* you first got your suspicions on Chomps, and how your opinions changed as you wrote the post (if this happened)
*meaning, like, either how far through the ISO, or what you were writing