Wrogn 2 - MAFIA VICTORY

Zug literally redchecked Soweli.
and after his roleclaim his interaction with soweli at D2 makes more sense now.
I don’t think it’s a wolf theatre. Zug is obv town here.

Neither Ash nor Soweli had any stance on the Creature vs Leafia hotheaded argument at D1.
I think if the argument was TvS, the other wolfs would have made more effort to defend their teammates. (practically both Leafia and Creature was in danger of yeeted off, cuz of their D1.)

Ash tried to push Chomps D3 very hard, and he had a chance until Zug haven’t voted for Ash.
Would they do that as scumbuddies? I think not. (although it is my weakest read)

Obviously I won’t suspect myself.

So I left with spooky/Derp in my poe.

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Depends on if someone caims the rb on Derps or not I’d say.

Marlina summed upmy thoughts nicely I think. About Zug at least.

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Chomps too.

Damn man I forgot about the 24 hourmark.

Guess we now just play all the way to EOD.

I guess I am back at townreading Zugz.

If we could agree on a Chomps, Derps, Zugz, me towncore maybe we should have a clear path to winning.

tutuu at least seemed to agree on Derps, Zugz and me being town.

Chomps was a headscratcher from them though. Hmm did anyone say Chomps was hard out of wolf meta?

let’s see

zug claimed so ill claim

I’m arsonist, in the day i pick someone to douse and notify them, in the night i can choose to roleblock the latest douse

N1 Rbed May
N2 Doused but slept on Creature
N3 Roleblocked Derps

Should the rest of us claim too?

Replace you with me and take Derps out of it unless someone claims the rb on him. Marluna can be at the edge of it.

Creature. Chomps was pushed by Ash. Hard.

Ah good. Derps can be in the towncore now.

im unironically getting sus of zug again lol

Spooky/Creatures sounds like a reasonable PoE to me.

Now to head out for now. :sleepingleafeon:

Leafia would’ve had to fully break their postcount tell as wolf, which would be going against pretty much all the meta I have on them
There are other reasons I TR Leafia (voting Soweli somewhat early D2, forgetting about Ishmael’s claimed target*, being lean/light TRed by Kyubey, possibly the way Leafia treated Ash would be uncharacteristic of w!Leafia because she’s known for bussing and TMI, but I haven’t though about that one much) but the postcount tell is the strongest, since if you look at the chart quoted here you can see how heavily correlated postcount and alignment are for Leafia

*they said they might forget about this as wolf, which might be true, but they’re also less likely to point that out as wolf


Chomps I don’t have much reason to townread, other than that people who TRed him died (namely May/Kyubey), and that Ash’s case on Spooky/Chomps feels like Ash has a much harder time coming up with reasons to wolfread Chomps (but in the world this post matters, that point is gone)
From my experience he plays ~like this as both alignments though so I don’t have reasons to wolfread him either.

Ash pushing him doesn’t move me much either way, because I don’t think w!Chomps would have any chance of saving Ash yesterday - unlike most people, he can’t really just start trying to seriously convince people of things, because it’d be vastly incongruent with his play otherwise. Which means the best play, once it’s clear Ash is going over, is to bus / do antispew. If the game continues I think it’s worth analyzing the way Ash pushed him, though, because there might be something there.

Still pondering whether his claim is towny (also depends on some of what he says about his claim/actions today)


Creature:

  • has played much better than in previous wolfgames
  • had the vibe* at EOD1 that he didn’t care who died unless it was him - while normally this is wolfy, it extended to soweli as well
    • despite having this vibe he still ordered the choices of who he wanted to kill
  • related to above, he started the wagon on soweli at EOD1

Relevant quotes that demonstrate the above:

*vibe here is referring to the emotion/tone he gave off, rather than what he directly stated

  • towny entitlement D1; probably worth checking whether he has a similar attitude as wolf tho
  • various posts that ping me town; I didn’t note all these down but this is one

This read isn’t as strong as Leafia, since I get the impression that he has had better wolfgames than the ones linked, and the linked ones are also hydra games (which makes them way more townsided).


While it’s reasonable enough for wolves to have Marluna’s claimed role (at least in a Zone game), the way she claimed it is still pretty towny, since:

  • it shows a lot of openness with her role, which is generally a large towntell
  • withholding the info about jesters until D2 makes this elaborate enough where I don’t think Marluna (or low-activity wolfmates) are likely to create a plan like this

Also, while I don’t know Marluna’s meta that heavily myself, tutuu said she’s polarized, and she’s definitely done much better than w!Marluna in Combinatorics Mafia (which I was in).

Relevant claim posts

They did also vote soweli EOD1, but then unvoted to avoid a tie, so I’m not sure if I should count that.

so overall @spookycat27 if you’re town I’m here (ordered within tiers)

Derps (is confirmed)
Leafia

Marluna
Creature

Chomps (possibly moving based on things they say about their claim today)

btw I’m considering whether to claim this. and I’m like 65-70% on you being wolf rn; was more confident earlier but you don’t seem to have as much “this sucks and is not fun” as you did as a mostly-doomed wolf in Time Bomb Mafia (which could just be because the way you lost that was more tilting, or you having changed as a player, but it does give me some pause)

nyaaaaaaaaaa ok I think there’s a mech play if @Creature is some form of protective
without claiming too many details (so you can’t be anticlaimed), are you one?