vote spooky out i don’t think nothing more will come
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I am claiming “jester”.
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I believe you, and I am declaring that you become my top town via this claim. (reasoning below)
False.
If I understand my role correctly, (in this game) there isn’t such as mafia jester (because of some mechanics, I can’t claim.)
And since I am losing my ability after finding a second jester with my ability, I speculated, that we should have began the game with multiple ones (as I said at D2), or possibilities for town players becoming jesters. (so far no one claimed the second possibility, so I am believing Creature’s claim here. Also everyone else claimed already, so there is literally no other room for more jesters.)
The reason I haven’t protected Ishmael heavily (even though I knew she had to be town, after she stuck to the jester claim…), cuz I didn’t want mafia to catch on that I know all jesters are town. (and giving them a free pass via claiming jester.)
I should have pushed the other wagons more strongey at D1.
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and after everyone claimed, I believe Leafia’s ability is just BS…
None of the described (and mechanically confirmed) role is even partially close for an Alien counterpart. (maybe Chomps’s role, but it is confirmed, that his role is called Arsonist.)
she was one of, who pushed Ishmael over Soweli D1 (together with Ash/Chomps)
she repeatedly missed out on my mechanical clues. (refusing jester being a thing, after my claim is worse than tunneling Creature whole D1.)
pushed Soweli D2 even though she saved him D1, and literally dropped most of her other reads from D1. (like a switch was turned on…)
and hammered Ash not letting Ash giving out any legacy.
I hardly can correctly read Leafia most of the time, but I bet Kyubey (Litten) is one of the few players, who can more correctly read Leafia on long term. In that hindsight, cubed (and probably May as well) dying over some way more obvious towns (like 22 or Zug) can make sense, in that scenario.
Alas, I can’t really prove anything written in this post. So free to disregard my bambling.
This is the one thing I wanted to comment on.
I think it was Leafia who tried to claim cred for pushing soweli D2 but she actually pushed Ishmael over soweli D1.
One more thing, Leafia pushed spooky over Ash whole D3, according the posted votecounts.
D4 Votecount
spookycat27 (2): Leafia, Chomps
Marluna (1): spookycat27
Not Voting (4): Creature, Marluna, Zugzwang, SirDerpsAlot
mmmmmmmmmmmmm
why can’t you claim them? I checked with Zone to verify this, and it’s true:
so, given that there is only one jester to check, there isn’t danger in being anticlaimed because it’d happen after you get your result
what was your thought process on possible things you could claim/do to save her?
currently I’m seeing “Claim there are exactly 2 jesters D1 and they must be town, and ask them to claim” → “Get all claims, say there can actually be any amount of jesters but most likely those who claimed are town” as a reasonable option, though it might get the jesters nightkilled immediately so it’s maybe not ideal (the possibility of protectives might save them though)
also why didn’t you want a tie, despite knowing Ishmael was town?
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I already told D2 why I didn’t want to out the existence of jesters yet.
That’s a good question, I don’t remember anymore. Somehow “tie is bad” was a more dorminant instinct, than “jesters are town”
I think I still wanted to see what a jester does after their exe, even if it’s town, and how important for me to find the rest before they’re executed?
But I’m not sure anymore.
The only thing I am sure I didn’t want is wolves realizing I know all jesters are town, and they pretending to be jester. (At gamestart I didn’t know how many jester are in game, and for me there isn’t really a difference between 2 jesters being in the game, or 3 jesters being in the game, since I can check only 2 correctly anyways.)
Nothing I know of. That just makes me a regular VT tbh.
This is what currently bothers me about Leafia the most:
contributes to get town lynched over soweli D1
pushes soweli D2 once they’re already everyone’s consensus wolfread
claims cred for pushing soweli D2 when they’ve done the opposite D1
I guess I’d currently go spooky > Leafia, but can be convinced to go the other way if everyone else is on board.
I struggle to see anyone else being a wolf.
That’s lame, and make my role even lamer…
I guess that makes you a neapolitan or vanilla checker.
nyaaaaaaaaa but if they’re town, then presumably their abilities couldn’t be that bad if they were eliminated, so you could just say that we shouldn’t fear eliminating people?
that’s a big assumption in a Zone game…
weren’t you the one who just proved alligment and ability doesn’t always correalate?
yes, but it’s not reasonable for a townie to have an ability that severe upon elimination where we should be scared of eliminating people
the game would be too swingy that way
and, since Ishmael wasn’t too worried about dying, you’d also have known it couldn’t be too bad based on that?
Until Creature said it does nothing, I was really hoping it does at least something… at least I could not feel my role useless.