Binary Stars Hydra JoaT10 - Town wins!

[Orochimeowru]

Cream start

@BostonFlours

Working on it. Now that everyone’s been around and reacted sufficiently, I’m happy to say that the point of pushing Achro right out the gate was not to get a read on Achro, it was to see how the rest of the game treated it. If we’re V/V, I think that should have some pretty obvious ripples as the mafia’s pupils go wide like a littol cat’s at the apparent immediate V/V mutual tunnel. We’ll see. We’ll see.

So I have been mulling on this. I have seen you do this before as town, funnily enough, and I did have that possibility floating in the back of my head as I was reading your posts, and went to check on some things, which is prob why there was a time gap between my first and second post as AerieRaffles called out.

I feel extraordinarily conflicted because if this was indeed all a reaction test well, it does not meet the standard of genuineness that I had in mind, especially when I have a previous game of yours where you did the exact same thing to compare it to.

When Achro was being wagoned to L-2, I’m not sure if you were in thread or not. I checked time stamps and posts, and it was around a 15 minute interval where that happened but were absent while it happened. Were you frozen as wolf? But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you just so happened to step away.

Now, the genuineness. Call it a feeling, yes, you are doing a reaction test, but I do not see you actually taking anything away from it in the moment, or actively attempting to drive reactions. In a previous game, you express disappointment that no one is really reacting to your made up scum case and there is more genuineness there, which is maybe why this gives me pause. Do you think I am being unfair in the bar I set in my mind for you?

I see a lot of thoughts coming out of your post #488 but it is really hard for me to see a singular drive to sort and solve. For example, I see you do comment on the pairings at least between Mono/Aerie and Terrence/Aerie. What confuses me though is that you call Terrence/Mono Not W/W. You vote Terrence. (So therefore Mono should be town in your mind). Yet you somehow also give credence to the thought that Mono/Aerie could also be wolf theatre potentially (So therefore Mono could also be wolf in your mind). Do you intend to solely read Mono off of interactions and pairings?

Hm…

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

so wait
your strategy for thinking derps is scum is reading kanaveslot and thinking they are unaligned? or am i missing something?
didn’t you literally come to the conclusion they are literally =rand scum?

[Orochimeowru]

VOTE: LeafiaButWorse

Collective vote:

• Game feels off.
• Potential houseplant.
• No strong read.
• See where the wind blows.
• Under scrutiny

[Monochromatic]

@AerieRaffles

This feels like Zone wants to agree with his partner for no reason other than “we are one slot”

Oh, no. Even while I was backreading when there were only ~230 posts, I didn’t like Boston’s arguments to attack Achro. “Tons of typos → Scummy” has got to be one of the stupidest arguments I have ever read in my life.

I was searching for other suspects, and found Orochi, whose meta I am somewhat more familiar with. @LeafiabutWorse, you already heard it from themselves, but yeah: Cream’s opening post is pretty generic. As time passed, Psyx woke up and just started to bleed town. So yeah, I ain’t going after them despite a meme that Cream mentioned in her first post.

There were four people who didn’t talk at all at the moment, which is why I didn’t do anything more other than a slight shade at Orochi–which I literally debunked in the same sentence.

@AerieRaffles

@Monochromatic

I say NGM/SS are not W/W. There’s no way one scum hydra supports early hammer for personal reasons while the other agrees with it. (Unless it’s a joke, but this is a terrible joke if it is one.)

- Zone

I doubt it’s a joke

Ayo @Neon_Genesis_Marluxion, are you for real with the “hammer ASAP” mindset? You were making fun of Derps whenever he was online, but Derps was at the very least correct about hammer having a big tendency of not helping town.

@AerieRaffles

@Monochromatic

Meanwhile I am very uncomfortable with Squid’s vote on this hydra, pushing it to L-2 because they want an early hammer when at least four other hydras have yet to say anything. I am also wary of NGM because of this, but I find it highly unlikely that both scum hydras would support early hammer.

- Zone

I suppose I agree with this but it’s kind of easy to say when you’re the one on the block, yeah? Failing is against your win condition.

I have something to say about this, but it just doesn’t taste right. I feel like I can’t post it without making someone upset.
–anyhow, I don’t like how you are describing this scenario. I feel like my opinion about NGM’s and SS’s votes were undermined.

- Zone

[Monochromatic]

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

@SquidSisters

i still think zone is pretending to be achro

where?

In their dreams.

- Zone

[BostonFlours]

What you have to understand is that I love to make some of the stupidest arguments you’ve ever heard in your life, refuse to elaborate, and leave

[BostonFlours]

I should probably play less risky and shitposty given I’ve got a buddy around but the circuits in my brain designed to evaluate consequences never properly developed so I just do whatever

[BostonFlours]

@Orochimeowru

VOTE: LeafiaButWorse

Collective vote:

• Game feels off.
• Potential houseplant.
• No strong read.
• See where the wind blows.
• Under scrutiny

This is a nice poem

[Monochromatic]

The only time I have played with you when you were town you came off thoughtful and as someone who had a good grasp on the game of mafia.

Here it feels like you are trying to play up your posts which makes perfect sense if you are scum tryin to outrun your meta.

-A

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

@Monochromatic

Ayo @Neon_Genesis_Marluxion, are you for real with the “hammer ASAP” mindset? You were making fun of Derps whenever he was online, but Derps was at the very least correct about hammer having a big tendency of not helping town.

no i was pointing at it as something obvious and common sense that really did not need to be pointed out, and if derps were town i dont think he would have

[BostonFlours]

First time you played with me was my first game on a forum, so I was trying very hard to look good at mafia. This is a May who no longer cares and just wants to knock vases off tables to see what happens ^-^

[AerieRaffles]

@LeafiabutWorse

tmi

Okay then vote us lol
Me thinking they’re town is def tmi

@LeafiabutWorse

i cant tell if thinking about it this way is super townie or super wolfy but I am leaning towards wolfy bc like yeah
you have hydra chats
u are supposed to be talking with ur partner privately lmao

But from the perspective of someone who isn’t in the hydra chat it looks like you (you being the hypothetical person changing their mind not you) didn’t think about it

I can’t trust that

@Monochromatic

You think I have any better weapon other than guessing? Reading about anything that isn’t related to me isn’t exactly my strongest suit whenever it comes to me and social deduction.

It just feels weird to sus someone over a grudge as opposed to what they said

@Monochromatic

I was searching for other suspects, and found Orochi, whose meta I am somewhat more familiar with.

You say this, but why?
Why is it Orochimeowru?

@Monochromatic

I feel like I can’t post it without making someone upset.

Don’t be scared of upsetting me, it’s hard not to

~Raffles

[AerieRaffles]

@AerieRaffles

@LeafiabutWorse

tmi

Okay then vote us lol
Me thinking they’re town is def tmi

Oh also I love how you tactfully cut out the part where I said “am I?” and “Is it happening?” As to say, I am not confident they’re a town
That was so cool of you
~Raffles

[Orochimeowru]

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

Would you try to pocket Achro as scum?

Honestly… I have never actually attempted to pocket anyone as scum. So just by default it would probably be a “no.” The thought of trying to pocket the Zone half of Monochrome is so weird in my mind lol… I think I would lose my nonexistent dignity in the process.

@LeafiabutWorse

Either way, it’s a very wolfy opener.

Why?

@Neon_Genesis_Marluxion

I want fun Cream…

Me too

@SquidSisters

half of cream is fat i think
now that i type this ive come to see it looks like im calling a person in that hydra fat. im not. im just familiar with the nutritional information of cream. big cream fan

…

[SquidSisters]

cream is tasty

[Orochimeowru]

im scared

[SquidSisters]

@BostonFlours

This is a May who no longer cares and just wants to knock vases off tables to see what happens ^-^

may becomes a cat

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

my primary current concern is derps is voting may

[Orochimeowru]

Why does this feel townie lol

[Neon_Genesis_Marluxion]

this is marl marluxion in case that wasn’t obvious