Cream was the first to mention vote stealer
thats a lot of words wow
Well leafia said she took lol’s vote?
“stolen your vote”
I didn’t get to reply before I left for dinner + shopping
but idk
I think Lemon brings up good posts here
esp bc gyr vote awareness = beancat voted awareness
thinking leafia’s mindset isn’t towny at all (I think I agreed w this thought at the time leafia posted, but I decided that leafia’s pov made sense too) but not pushing her
and I agree her claim is kinda ?? not that towny
though this isn’t as strong a point
seeing so many people not think Cream is towny also makes me wanna reconsider my tr and double check
though I still just lean more towards voting magnis just in general… ah, idk
I’m gonna recheck her iso in a sec
can compare w a prev scumgame of hers, tigger’s wild ride to bastion
i was the first one to talk about a votestealer
i said my vote was stolen and leafia got really scared i said that
I thought you meant the original post (2061) that Leafia mentioned it. Not the post where Leafia replied to me for my question.
Like yeah duh, she replied to me to clarify things after I asked.
But at the point that I asked about vote stealer in post 2463, she hadn’t replied yet in post 2465.
I don’t think ppl were reading off that alone though
key part was wavering on zorvo
the well if it was anyone else I’d kill w fire, but w zorvo I would look deeper, vote zorvo, but also I’m usually wrong on him so unvote, and also zorvo/gyr/lemon >0 scum but let’s stop looking there
You’re right. People weren’t reading off that specific aspect. It was just an example.
I think someone (?) was reading more off Bean voting Gyr
For a second, it did flash in my mind that Lissi may be genuine about her role, but she’s just mafia instead and fixed up a few minor details.
But then I remembered that mafia is likely a redirector and a vote stealer, and I don’t think Lissi falls in either of those categories.
Still think Lissi is town.
I don’t think DV/vig are typically strictly town though
Which roles would you say should belong to town only out of the list, or do you think all are NAI? (other than Lemon’s)
It’s not just that “townie role = town.” It’s also the erroneous assumption that “person does protown thing with role = town.” That was more what I was trying to get that.
I’d say Leafia’s is probably town.
Obscurity, neutral or town.
I’d probably have to think deeper on the rest.
There is an aspect of:
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Do I believe their claim?
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Do I believe that their claim is a town role?
Like, I can totally agree that parity cop is probably town. But do I believe that they really are what they claim?
I can believe that Marluna is what she says she is. But do I believe that that comes from town?
Which one are you asking?
Okay, I get it? Like, I guess it’s just unfortunate I didn’t claim/activate last night before massclaim was suggested, so it can be proven once and for all?
I’m just explaining my role, its effects, and why it’s probably okay balance-wise with lol’s parity cop.
I don’t understand why you keep trying to bring up the fact that it’s “fake-able” over and over whenever I explain something about it, like what do you want me to do, lie?
That’s my role, those were my actions, the end.
Most of the roles by themselves are imo fakeable and/or could be either alignment. Including yours. IDK why you constantly need to say something antagonizing to me whenever I post, but I would like to request for you to stop, thanks.
Btw I think the Glass/Lissi thing was his way of looking at the Marluna wagon.
I think at that point votes on Marluna were Glass/me/Zorvo, or I saw a VC that had something to that effect somewhere when ISOing him.
It doesn’t really factor into reads anymore but I guess it could help w showing thought process a bit
Yes. His Glass/Lissi post was 1434
Glass claimed target 1070 and continued to talk about our chat since for many posts
I feel like I owe an apology to everyone for my behaviour. I figuratively washed my hands clean of this game after EOD1, and even while I was engaging with the thread my heart wasn’t really in it. I was focused on getting through the last week of term, and now I’m on break. This game is by no means impossible, but I’m only hurting everyone by playing the way I am.
My schedule’s undergoing a relative change; I’ll be online later than I have been, but I’ll be more attentive than I had been. Just for the next two weeks, and the game shouldn’t take that long. So for as long as I’m alive, I’ll try to be useful. To that end…
At the beginning of the game we assumed only three Mafia were in play due to having 14 players total. I also assumed one additional neutral at the time, although Marluna mentioned something about a pair of neutral lovers…? Not sure where that came from.
There’s no mechanical confirmation of having only three Mafia as far as I know, but I assumed it would be standard. Town did not have the information we do now, so that could be a potential avenue of thought to think about… or we could just assume there are three evils until otherwise proven. If there are four Mafia, hypothetically, there would be no neutrals. It doesn’t really seem like there are neutrals in play anyway, though.
Cream ISO
Initial viberead for her second post, familiar with this trio. Glass had reciprocated previously, and had this to say:
With that being said, looking back at Cream’s first wallpost:
Cream initially assumed there being four Mafia in play.
In hindsight, this was a passive readlist, like you’re leaving room for error: Glass seems like Town, but they aren’t posting reads. I like Lissi, but my read could be wrong. Lemon’s playing freeform, so most likely good… at least I think so. Blitz is acting strange, but there’s not enough evidence to go off anything. My personal interpretation from this one post is that Cream is a cautious player at heart, at least from the start of the game.
…I posted that early.