yes but Magnus targetted her, she would have been redirected to target lol, which means, lol couldn’t have been redirected to ??? even if she was
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“something bad happening” is kind of ehhh
like, i think the hosts would clarify what the bad thing is… based on the flipped roles.
also 3 vote-manipulation abilities existing in town would be kinda weird…
Would Gyr be able to fake this role, though?
Like I think from Magnus’s claim, we can tell that Zone didn’t provide fake claims (when I questioned him, he made it VERY clear that it didn’t matter what version of vanillaizer-but-RBer people wanted, he treated vanillaizer and roleblocker as separate roles regardless. Personally I don’t think he would’ve made 2-shot vanillaizer a fake claim… though ig I can ask, brb)
But also like hmm
what prevents his role from being a mafia role (or some twist/close to a mafia role, like magnus’s)? like it could be similar to his actual role.
it would benefit mafia because:
-roleblock
-random town role revealed if he dies
outside of that, idk, i feel like the role isn’t wild enough that i can’t imagine it being faked
also, looking at gyr ISO, it feels like the way they treat bean and magnus is kind of different than how they treat others.
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oh the vote ability could be some twist on an actual vote stealer, idk
the other thing is, gyr has not confirmed their role in any way afaik
everyone else here has confirmed their role at the very least
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okay so with the knowledge that there’s 1 mafia left, I’m actually thinking Glass is clear IF their role is legitimate (which i’m starting to believe)
because if they’re mafia, what’s stopping them from just leaving each day then night killing every townie until parity?
So I asked Zone
If it’s 5v1 rn
And the 1 mafia can leave thread for a day and not be counted as part of the game, EVEN IF they return the next day, town wins
So if Glass is the only mafia and leaves, we should win, barring neutrals
I think neutrals might be counted with town though…??? because Zone said a 3v1v1 wasn’t XYLO
idk need to ask for clarification
But I think if we’re okay with a 4v1 or 3v1(3p)…? Then maybe Glass should leave today, esp since 4v1 won’t be XYLO anyways
Let me ask about the 3v1 too
FTR I do think Glass is likely town
But complete confirmation doesn’t hurt
yeah i agree
technically if we miss today and we’re 3 vs 1 they could do it tomorrow too i guess
today is probably generally safer, though.
Ok well you are definitely legit.
So your either town or mafia Rolecop which I doubt they have that and a vote stealer so idk.
I mean maybe but you know my exact Rolecard so you yourself cannot be the vote stealer.
Hmm I’m honestly not sure.
skimmed some stuff, but tried to ISO glass/lissi/gyrlander for pros (town points) and cons (mafia points)
gyrlander
Summary
Gyrlander Pros:
-Seems okay to die/has suggested maybe they should just die at points
-Defense of Marluna seems kind of townie
-Some townie posts around lol’s redirection claimGrylander Cons:
-Some early interactions with Magnus and beancat look a bit like distancing - voting in a semi-joking way, they are the only people he “goes at” with any sort of direction, and some of the reasonings are kind of weak in a way that could be TMI (ie, stating that beancat not voting = beancat scum)
-The delay/way they treated their claim was a bit suspicious
-Advocating for no elimination D1 (which is pretty bad for town)
-Doesn’t seem to really care who is eliminated/just goes along, despite having townreads on certain players
-Ability seems kind of weird/is unconfirmable compared to others
glass
Summary
Glass Pros:
-Interactions with Magnus looked unpaired.
-Consistently solid solving - seems to genuinely care about figuring out people’s alignments
-Ability seems town or neutral, and is proven
-Early post about there being a neutral because of wincon wording sounds legitimate/relatable in a townie way
-Interactions looked unpaired from Magnus’s side
-role may just be clearing if legitimate
-#2391 decent analysis on Magnus
-Overall body of content/approach/engagement/etc seems to come from someone without answers, is best way I can put itGlass Cons:
-”Parity” part of ability may be a bit odd (though I think this got cleared up)
-defends bean around #1524
lissi
Summary
Lissi Pros:
-Engagement throughout has been solid
-Solving seems fairly genuine
-Whole call out of Magnus looked unpaired (and basically locked in Magnus as the vote).
-One mafia left and seems to want to solve Gyr’s alignment for real.
-Comment about playing stuff off better as wolf seemed kind of genuine
-#374 slightly townie
-Questioning of my townread on magnus is solid
-Interaction with Bean seems slightly unpaired
-Magnus targeting them seemed legit
-Seems to believe herself at a lot of points/solving gets nuanced to a point that’d be hard to fake.
-Good defense of Marluna when vote was between Marluna/MagnusLissi Cons:
-Didn’t use role at times it would’ve been +Town to do so
-Hasn’t taken a lot of hard stances
-Votes Marluna over Bean despite saying Bean may be more likely scum
Overall Conclusion -
I think when I look at the body of content as a whole from all 3 players, there are less towntells/less things that would be hard to fake, and less + points from Gyrlander than the other 2. I also think that their interactions come across as the post potentially theatery with the other wolves, and they have the only non-confirmed role. Their solving has been weak in comparison to the others - I agreed with Glass’s points above too (on them being more of a follower/less of their own independent approach to the game). So, I’m very comfortable with this vote.
VOTE: Gyrlander
I mean regardless I’m always the deciding factor cause I got a BPV still left.
Meaning I need to make sure I’m right about my vote.
i’ve got one left too
You got one from Lemon yeah?