A Certain Scientific Railgun Mafia - Game Over: Rainbow's End [Mafia Victory]

[Gorta]

you still there?

[Gorta]

I’ve learned after my last game that live interaction is a great way to get reads

[Atlas]

he did something similar in deus ex

probably nai but anti-town either way

[Gorta]

@WindwardAway

but the last wolfgame I saw from him was ages ago and he kinda potatoed so that’s just my experience.

last time I was wolf with Eli he was just frozen all game

[Gorta]

I’ve also seen him not be like that, so I really need more time to say for sure

[lol]

windward is scared, maybe mafia?

[Zone_Q11]

@Atlas

these wagons are pretty bad

How come? Are they all your townreads?

@WindwardAway

@Zone_Q11

Hm… this doesn’t feel right for some reason.
Not the fact that Eli/Luks might be V/V, but the way you say it feels hedge-y.

Why does it feel hedgy? I literally said I couldn’t give a proper explanation at that point.

It might be an influence from eevee, but “if you can’t explain it, then don’t say it” and instead “wait until you have the time to explain your case”. If you just talk about something and don’t explain it, then it feels like a low-effort post from mafia.
This is my biased view, but it feels like TMI wolf knowing that Eli/Luks are V/V and then not elaborating on it because -insert personal circumstances- but you wanted to say something about everyone in the limited amount of time you have, so you still posted it anyways.

Alternatively: I don’t like gutreads.

@WindwardAway

…that was Kiiruma who said lol wants drama, not me.

Oh. My bad.

@WindwardAway

I don’t know what Hippo is doing or whether it involves drama or not. I know exactly what my read is on you and why, but I’m withholding further commentary on it until I find what I’m looking for.

Welp, okay.

@WindwardAway

I do think one could be a wolf and one could be town but if that’s the case then probably none of the other wolves have been in the thread so far because it seemed like most people were taking sides already and scumreading one of them, while I believe wolves would want to steer suspicion away by saying both of them could be town (exactly what I’m doing). So really, you guys should be quewrioning me for having this take, more than anyone else.

@Zone_Q11

Huh. I most certainly didn’t expect to see anyone to be so self-conscious other than myself. So, why are you -according to your own words- actively acting scummy? I don’t recall behaving anti-town as something you are known for, unlike me.

@WindwardAway

I’m just pointing out what I think and why I think it. If giving thoughts is antitown then I will continue to be antitown this entire game, but at least if I die you will be able to go back and look at my reasoning on reads, and mull it over for yourself that I might actually be right.
Not that anyone ever looks at my reads after I die, but you know… Postgame cred.

I did not say you are being anti-town for giving your thoughts. You did not read the context correctly.

You said you “believe wolves would want to steer suspicion away by saying both of them could be town”, which you admit you were doing. I interpret that as being anti-town.
So, unless you are claiming to be a wolf/mafia, why would you say/admit that you are doing what you believe a wolf/mafia would do?
You already said in that very post that we “should be quewrioning [you] for having this take” and that is exactly what I am doing right now.

[Atlas]

@Zone_Q11

@Atlas

these wagons are pretty bad

How come? Are they all your townreads?

no its just a bunch of people being wagoned for bad reasons

[Zone_Q11]

Well, nevertheless it is what we will have to work with as long as we don’t have “a good reason to wagon someone”.

I notice that you have voted anyone. Were you planning on sheeping a wagon?
If not, then how about making one of your own?

…there is only a limited amount of time of “waiting” and “seeing” before you are forced to “acting” and “voting”. Granted, only 13 hours have passed, but please do try to not stay on the bench for too long. We already have plenty of those in the form of uninformed spectators.

[Gorta]

how so?

[Zone_Q11]

Gorta, you said that live interaction is a great way to get reads.
But it’s not as if we can talk without a topic, and clearly you don’t like speculating about the setup.
So what exactly is it that you want to talk about?

[Gorta]

I don’t specialize at starting conversation

[Atlas]

@Zone_Q11

there is only a limited amount of time of “waiting” and “seeing” before you are forced to “acting” and “voting”. Granted, only 13 hours have passed, but please do try to not stay on the bench for too long.

yeah i know
ill be here
probably

[Zone_Q11]

Yet you don’t seem to specialize at joining an already pre-existing one either?

You said you did not have any solid reads on Eli yet. Then, how about Luks; the guy Eli seriously scumreads for reasons mentioned at P#228 and P#248?
What about Helz and Whysper, who is being townread by Isolde?
What about Windward, who is responding towards Isolde’s townread on Helz, overlooking Isolde mention of “or at least mild townread”?

[lol]

said they would live discuss, you asked saying you make reads easier with it and would talk, they dissapear? is it really a coincidence? what do you think?

[Atlas]

@Zone_Q11

What about Helz and Whysper, who is being townread by Isolde?

that can be summed up with “oh seth”

[Gorta]

I haven’t looked at Iso yet and I also haven’t looked at Helz and Whysper yet either, so I basically have no opinion on those

[Zone_Q11]

@lol

is it really a coincidence?

Pardon me for interrupting, but isn’t that more plausible than Windward “being scared of talking”?

[Zone_Q11]

@Atlas

@Zone_Q11

What about Helz and Whysper, who is being townread by Isolde?

that can be summed up with “oh seth”

I did mention Isolde, but I was asking Gorta what his thoughts are about Helz and Whysper.
What Helz and Whysper are doing are not related to what Isolde is thinking about them.

@Gorta

I haven’t looked at Iso yet and I also haven’t looked at Helz and Whysper yet either, so I basically have no opinion on those

Then how about you start by looking at them, instead of talking with us?
It’s not as if the day will suddenly end any time soon, and if you keep up your current attitude, then we will get nowhere, and lol’s mockery will become reality.

Rant towards your behavior

“I want to play the game”

• BUT nobody is talking to me
  BECAUSE I did not proactively start a conversation with them
  BECAUSE “I don’t specialize in starting conversations”
• BUT there is nothing I can talk about
  BECAUSE I don’t have any opinions yet
  BECAUSE I haven’t read anything yet

So, you want to play the game, which requires you to give your opinions about other people; opinions you develop as you read through all the posts in the past; BUT you didn’t look at them.

“…why?” At that point, “why even bother talking at all”?

[Gorta]

@Zone_Q11

Then how about you start by looking at them, instead of talking with us?
It’s not as if the day will suddenly end any time soon, and if you keep up your current attitude, then we will get nowhere, and lol’s mockery will become reality.

give me a bit of time to look at them then