An Attempt at a Sorc 17er - Game Thread

[baker]

@IcetFeelsPain

Im really confident that zorvo is town and tutuu is probably town

I don’t town read arctic or sultan they can flip either way but I believe apo is on Arctic scum teams as well and it’s rude to kill the replacement on their first day

That’s where I am at currently.

I want to see if we can break this world somehow. I will go look for a different pattern of interactions.

[IcetFeelsPain]

And the sultan jinxed voters does not give me confidence

[baker]

Actually that is false. There have been some posts of Geyde that I townread

[Agent47]

@IcetFeelsPain

Also the apo wagon is pure (probably)

The voters on apo are far less confident or have any non-sheeped standing read on her then those on arctic.

[IcetFeelsPain]

True

[Agent47]

Notably, that includes you.

[Agent47]

You’re pushing for it pretty significantly, however, when you said you have no read on both slots

[Agent47]

*Strong read. My apologies.

[IcetFeelsPain]

also true

[tutuu]

U have my name there at two different places

[baker]

Arctic/ApoThau could be w/w w/v v/v their interactions are strange. In first 300 posts Apo is more cautious with Arctic and vice versa. Apo is more relaxed when responding to me or Geyde etc. Then there is this long silence between Arctic and ApoThau while both keeping each other at null and seemed like pushed the lynch in same direction without any exchange or communication. Later on Arctic makes couple of posts where it shows a “friendly” posture with ApoThau.

I am leaning towards w/w

I think I will have to read Geyde/YBW interactions before calling them a potential team or tinfoil the bussing potential of Slam or YBW against Arctic. They both could be town.

I think ApoThau being null most of D1 doesn’t sit right with me in Arctic’s lists.

Arctic is always hedging with ApoThau

but then they give us the world of IceT/Slam/YBW/Jinxed

If Arctic is town then we should follow this because I can’t think of anything better atm. It almost feels like Slam and tutuu are either both town or there is one wolf in there and I think it would be Slam instead of tutuu.

But then IDK why Apo is being scumread by tutuu.

But if Arctic/ApoThau are villagers here, I would probably look at Slam/IceT

@Arctic

I think geyde is probably mafia
I think jinxed/ybw is probably one mafia (both seemed like they could have been TMI’ing guava as town yesterday and they don’t feel particularly w/w)

No idea on anything else

ybw/Arctic w/v ??
Jinxed/Arctic w/v ??

I need to read more

Slam/Arctic still w/v w/w

Are Slam/ApoThau teamed? It could be possible. I think we always bomb ApoThau here and have a dome between Arctic/Slam @Zugzwang

[tutuu]

VOTE: Apocryphal

[Zugzwang]

Baker scumcase. Bolded points are stronger.

Baker jokingly claimed PR early in the game. This is anti-town and she knows it. It risks the real PRs giving themselves away from their reactions.

Her TR on lol for high post count is not great, but it depends on the meta she has on him.

@baker

I would trust Arctic/tutuu masonry today. Yeah they might be pulling off a good cop/bad cop or maybe one of them is taking advantage of the masonry but it doesn’t help looking into them today. They have been trying to solve individually and I think Arctic is doing a lot of work to impress people while tutuu is supposed to do that but have been underwhelming when it comes to their emotions. old tutuu will be missed

Baker had earlier pushed Tutuu, and was voting them as of that post. To say “oh I don’t want to look into this person today” makes no sense from town who actually scumreads someone.

@baker

this was the post that pinged me first

it was mostly because you decided to use punctuation and capital letters. formatting is different than your first 10 posts or so. Timing of it also felt like you needed that kind of a post to get yourself out of trouble which you kept trying on your next 2 posts and then idk you go at Achro coz you know em from past

idk i think you are just a schizo like me and not mafia after all

@baker

but if you think you are making any more sense than lets say me or May hydra then yeah that probably means you are mafia

These together are strange. Why would T!Baker think that T!Mac should feel he doesn’t make sense, while W!Mac feels he does? Also, it’s pretty normal to use punctuation/capitals in longer, more serious posts, which that one is.

@baker

Zug/lol/tutuu/pigeonnyc
Zug/lol/tutuu/Arete
Zug/lol/tutuu/Geyde

I don’t think I can vote on pigeon/arete/geyde before seeing a flip or two

This could be a playstyle difference but I don’t think they’d mix their serious reads with their joking ones like this.

At EoD, Baker tries to convince Guava to not bomb them. The posts where she does so feel like she believes Guava’s claim, which obviously doesn’t fit with their other posts.

[Zugzwang]

anyway
this was a bit more underwhelming than I expected but there are definitely points I find strong.
not asking for any claims yet as I have not looked at Apo
@baker will you be online (enough to claim) later?

[Zorvo]

@SultanOfSlam

Jinxed i played with once before

You played with that Hydra once before?

[baker]

@Zugzwang

anyway
this was a bit more underwhelming than I expected but there are definitely points I find strong.
not asking for any claims yet as I have not looked at Apo
@baker will you be online (enough to claim) later?

I am currently here, playing FM while I can. I can’t promise if I can be around later but we will see.

I am currently reading Slam/YBW/IceT ISO to understand t!Arctic better. I will see if I can scumcase any of them better than my case on Arctic.

read my latest posts. I am solving the game and I would much appreciate your thoughts on 3726 3752 and the posts around them. Forget about my Day 1 please it is chaotic for reasons you should not focus on tbh

[baker]

@Zugzwang

[Zorvo]

@SultanOfSlam

Sure ill ask why is Artic Town?

Arctic literally gave me a post that stated how to read them as a wolf, they legit told me their wolf tell because “they aren’t wolf” and how they have went about today isn’t how wolf!Arctic would.

[Zorvo]

@Arctic

zorvo, there is a difference between my town game and scum game, but the difference is intentional, you’re right that i can probably fake most of what i’ve done in this game, but you are getting caught up on the same thing you always do every time we have this dance - you’re trying to say why i could be a wolf rather than why i am a wolf

First they engage with me on my concern.

@Arctic

I’m not sure why you think I would just tell you how to find me if I was a wolf, but luckily for you since I am not I can in fact tell you

If my confidence on my reads does not scale with how correct I am, I’m likely to be mafia

If you backread later on in the game and see I’ve been townreading wolves for bullshit reasons, I’m likely to be mafia

If I haven’t been involved in any wolf deaths, I’m likely to be mafia.

You should not judge me on the accuracy of my reads as a whole, but you should judge the accuracy of reads I ask to be sheeped on, because I only do this when I am mafia and want to push an agenda (so the read would be incorrect) or when I am town and strongly believe in my read (when I am usually correct)

Then they gave this.
@baker @SultanOfSlam

(Now I am probably pinging two wolves that likely won’t change their mind but whatever.)

[Zorvo]

@tutuu

VOTE: Apocryphal

VOTE: Apocryphal

I wouldn’t mind voting out Apo and @Zugzwang shooting within Baker/Jinxed/Salem.