An Attempt at a Sorc 17er - Game Thread

[baker]

@Jinxed

A lot of players feel down to kill Arctic at the moment, and nobody is really fighting it. I still think he’s evil.

I think you are ignoring the early D2 progression here and I don’t know if that is a timezone issue or something else.

[baker]

Zug bombed Sultan because Sultan was in everyones PoE and it is most likely Sultan/Arctic were w/v if not w/w

If they are v/v then we have a big problem here with a lot of misclears

[Jinxed]

I think I’m struggling to note the “consensus” scumreads because they haven’t lined up in my head as such, but that’s fair enough.

[baker]

NGL Zorvo voting Arctic kinda worries me

[Jinxed]

Are you worried because Zorvo doesn’t scumread Arctic? It’s a pretty common behaviour for his vote to end up on whomever but I can understand the concern if you don’t know him.

[baker]

@Jinxed

Are you worried because Zorvo doesn’t scumread Arctic? It’s a pretty common behaviour for his vote to end up on whomever but I can understand the concern if you don’t know him.

I kinda know him and I know he be wildin. I can usually find Zorvo’s alignment be it mafia or town but this game I am struggling because they admitted they will be playing different and it shows

[baker]

I kinda dont like tutuu trying to get derpcleared d1 when we were talking about the setup. It is something I do a lot as mafia it is probably one of the easiest things to do

[baker]

@tutuu

in the world where @baker had the best solve

its Zorvo Arctic Jinxed YBW

possible

[baker]

dont think it is my solve though. i am not confident in many of the players

[baker]

I was thinking of tutuu/Zorvo/Arctic/YBW mostly but I don’t think I would bet on it. game is wide open atm

[Arctic]

tutuu is going through all the pain of thinking she’s been playing super badly and defending wolf me and she’s going to have to go through all the pain again when she realizes she shouldn’t have stopped defending me

[baker]

@Arctic

tutuu is going through all the pain of thinking she’s been playing super badly and defending wolf me and she’s going to have to go through all the pain again when she realizes she shouldn’t have stopped defending me

who do you think is mafia after Sultan’s flip?

[Arctic]

tutuu is just not a wolf. i don’t understand how you can’t see this. it’s like, everything. the conviction that she’s had on everything cannot be faked. the lack of TMI that she is currently displaying on my alignment (being worried about defending wolf me even though i’m town) cannot be faked. the extent of the villagery reaction’s she’s had and the meltdowns in this game cannot be faked. the “light” thing cannot be faked. this is the most confident read i have and i’d like you to respect this after today

@baker

who do you think is mafia after Sultan’s flip?

YBW, icet, pigeon? apocryphal?
maybe porscha but not sure i believe this

[Arete]

hey Arctic I have another dumb question

since I claimed you’ve basically been treating it like it’s your job to convince me, rather than at any point being like ‘well Arete is wilding so I’ll just have to convince everyone else instead’

is there a reason for that? like obviously there’s a risk of me just handing you the bomb, but normally as town I would expect you to prefer that to getting misexed

[Arete]

@Arete

sell me on someone else being a wolf

ideally do it in a way that doesn’t look like you’ve just picked the easiest LHF in the game to pick on

@Arctic

@baker

who do you think is mafia after Sultan’s flip?

YBW, icet, pigeon? apocryphal?
maybe porscha but not sure i believe this

ok I’m sorry but this is really funny

[Arctic]

@Arete

hey Arctic I have another dumb question

since I claimed you’ve basically been treating it like it’s your job to convince me , rather than at any point being like ‘well Arete is wilding so I’ll just have to convince everyone else instead’

is there a reason for that? like obviously there’s a risk of me just handing you the bomb, but normally as town I would expect you to prefer that to getting misexed

I would prefer to get the bomb than be miskilled. I’m not going to try and convince only you, but I do feel predisposed to it because you are the IC and your reason behind revealing was so that people could rally behind you. and I suspect that regardless of what people think on the matter, at the end of the day if you still think I’m mafia people will vote with you. tutuu is a good example of this

@Arete

ok I’m sorry but this is really funny

I know you said the thing about how “this doesn’t feel like a game where we just had the wolves at the bottom of our poe but above the bottom 4 villagers” but given that I’m town and I have almost no reason to doubt the higher posters except like achro’s slot (who I included in that list) I don’t have much reason to believe this can’t be the case. Who do you think is a wolf other than me, again? I’m not sure why you find this team unreasonable other than assuming that the wolves can’t be LHF, which like, given that you think I’m mafia makes a bit more sense, but you must understand this is fmpov

[Arete]

stupid 4:17 AM tinfoil that I don’t really believe: what if tutuu/Porscha are w/w

we’ve all been sheeping tutuu’s metaread, does anyone else in the game have a metaclear on Porscha?

[Arctic]

how do people think tutuu is mafia
are we reading the same game

I don’t have meta on porscha though, other than that she felt a lot more obvious as mafia in the last game

[Arctic]

@tutuu

if arctic flips wolf looks like im living till endgame for defending him so hopefully i can redeem myself

i feel so guilty for defending him (if he’s mafia)

sorry guys :( (if he’s mafia)

(if he’s town its ok)

@tutuu

I HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO NOTHING BUT VILLAGERS DEATH AND CHANCES ARE IVE DEFENDED ALL OF THE WOLVES IN MY TOWNCORE THIS IS NOT GOOD

NOT GOOD

NOT GOOD I TELL U

i tried man i genuinely tried so hard

but it wasn’t enough ;-;

@tutuu

maybe if we take my readlists an

@tutuu

;-;

i sheep u

im scared

@tutuu

dude HOW THE FUCK ARE THERE 4 WOLVES

HOW ARE THERE FOUR WOLVES ALIVE

@tutuu

im gonna go crazy. i need to see arctic flip. before that idk if i can make any good posts. my mental is dead. sorry for being so weak ;-;

@tutuu

I HAD A WOLF FLIP TO WORK WITH THERE I NEED 1 WOLF FLIP

in all games ive played - before i had a wolf flip i went crazy

i went crazy in the mountainous amq d2 with litten

in deceive inc i was defending lol and pushing min/zug

true maj i was fine but i was heavily relying on achro killing zenon first and having a difference check between hippo and me

I NEED OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEARHEAD THE GAME

and then i clean up

I CANT DO SHIT ON MY OWN ;-;

and

IM SCARED BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CRITICIZING ME TOWNREADING ARCTIC

AND THERE’S GOOD CHANCE ARCTIC IS WOLF AND THEY WERE RIGHT

AND ID FEEL SO GUILTY FOR SHIELDING A WOLF

i hate so much to be a burden to my team and let them down :(

@tutuu

thank u so much aret ily ;-;

if arctic is wolf promise u wont hate me right?

i feel rly scared if ppl will hate me

u wont hate me right?

Like, imagine I’m town for a second - how is this ever a wolf who has TMI that this is the case?

[Jinxed]

I think Pigeon’s slot is town. He’s completely polarised when he’s good, and while his usual playstyle leads players to suspect him anyway, this game feels completely typical for him. You’ll get what I mean sooner or later.