as is worded
The Spy still sees reminder tokens.
The Spy learns everything.
but what tokens would they see
washerwoman info can’t be set in stone because if a washerwoman original target was picked by the minions to become the demon, that isn’t a townsfolk anymore
the question is
“does the spy see the washerwoman’s reminder tokens on n1, even though the spy wakes before the washerwoman”
this matters for d1 confirmation for instance
yeah for washerwoman and investigator and such. those are set up abilities. they dont get put on during their corresponding characters turn order
the question was the demon choosing acts before washerwoman
this leads to weird stuff because of spy
you can’t have reminder tokens for washerwoman if washer woman acts after the demon being chosen
rip for the washerwoman
washerwoman goes after cawthane though so thats legitimately illegal information
the way washerwoman is worded. and the way the demon is worded means there can be cases where the washerwoman will get a “correct” ping on the demon. basically making them drunk
Trouble Brewing Expert Mode.
that’s why I’m confused about the reminder tokens
it’s like widow call
you can set it up at start sure but if they are ever converted to evil that widow cal needs to be placed somewhere else
I didn’t think about this, to be fair. I would be slightly annoyed at the Spy for making this happen, though.
Obviously we need to reallocate the Washerwoman tokens in that instance. It could be as easy as pinging them off the Spy instead…
Hmm. I don’t think the Spy would see the grimoire a second time that night if it happened.
i would rule it that the washerwoman just gets a different ping than what was planned
the spy sees the planned ping but not necessarily the real ping if the cawthane choice ruins the planned ping
you could move it around. make minions pick before spy sees the grim
or that
This is how I’d run it, yeah.
i feel like that defeats the point of spy in a catch game
like spy can’t communicate it but they should be able to benefit from their ability
Cawthane is setup
washerwoman is not
therefore, you WOULD have to change who the washerwoman learns based upon who the minions choose
(but it also means that the Spy cannot see the grim before cawthane)