Bad as I am with names, I’m even worse in general with pictures. I don’t specifically remember playing with someone with the name Arctic, no idea if you use a different name there. But images are usually less informative to me than words. If it’s an image I really care about, then it stands out, otherwise, it’s visual noise to me.
Weasels and stoats I like (other animals too), but their pictures usually aren’t that cool to me, and unless I’m really bored and have extra time and little else to do, I may look at the avatar, but not give them any attention or memory, not really notice the image, unless the image happens to click me.
When a player really gets my attention, I may lock their image and everything else about them I can attempt to recognize in memory, but I’m really on ‘this is a huge amount of new everything’ for a full week now
Thanks for remembering me though, sounds like you do - as we keep playing across a much longer time I’ll have a complex understanding of you
This game, I’m really liking some of I’ve read of you so far. You’re balanced and mediating the game, it’s a good look. I’m slow and deep to evaluate by preference, but I’m incredibly glad you’re in the game and think you’re using your influence well. #320, but more than just that.
Hey, I’m trying to spot what you’re seeing, the insinuating part of Leafia’s and Zone’s claims, that these mean they are town. Can you help me see what you’re seeing? … I did read their posts around the claim period, really carefully and looking for what I understand how to recognize as manipulation, tricks, loaded language, and I’m not seeing it. But I’m not from this culture, so I could easily misunderstand or miss stuff that is clear to your eyes, so please help me understand.
Allies… multiball? In a 13’er? Nah.
Lost wolf is possible, but a 10v2+1 is rare. I don’t recall any games with that kind of setup.
Oh, and you don’t need to worry about the mafia being able to use my abilities, because they are locked in the first place. (Hence why I said I am currently a glorified vanilla.)
Isn’t that good though? For what it’s worth I used RNG to choose my characters and my abilities all fell outside my expectations. (I thought I’d be a protective role.)
I mostly like what I’m reading from Arctic, but this comes across as pretty deeply manipulative. Not necessarily scum, but not anywhere near as helpful or useful as other posts. This one seems to present the agenda and the view that to play better as town, one (or specifically, Thunder) just needs to do what Arctic said/says to, and by not doing so, that’s both bad play and disappointing. It sort of takes agency away from Thunder and presumes a probably unrealistic degree of authority.
“i have gone out of my way to prove that your push on bystander didn’t hold any water, and you have decided to ignore this” That presumes that Thunder/everyone is going to agree with your reasoning that it doesn’t hold any water, and any continuation is thus clearly a waste of time/wrong effort/wolfy/something else bad.
I guess that Arctic’s probably speaking from a viewpoint of frustration (regardless of alignment), but this method is a stark contrast to earlier comments like “you might find it fun, but it’s actually kinda upsetting to me personally to see townplay devolve back to how it was a couple years ago after a period of people actually playing well, because now i know that it’s possible and people just don’t care” and “though i recognize some people are just here to shitpost or get a cool role so there’s only so much i can ask for”
I also really wondered at “i have gone out of my way to prove that your push on bystander didn’t hold any water” and the best I can find is this -
If that’s it, that’s not convincing as proof, it’s even called a gut read, and seems weird because Arctic seems generally pretty logical, and I don’t get the logic here. I get the “i feel like the back and forth between you two isn’t very helpful” but while that may or may not be factual, the upper level of "I shut this down, you continue, so you’re a bad v or a wolf - though I think it’s you are a bad v’ from Arctic to Thunder - which is what I understand is what’s being communicated - is insult and doesn’t help, it’s just an attempt at controlling.
A better way to guide that is maybe to actually guide it towards useful stuff, if possible.
But maybe this is just over Arctic’s tolerance, in a tap out/scream/do anything to make it stop sort of way?
Initial read of Arctic is mostly helpful, and mostly null with a v lean. Definitely evidence of trying to do what is good for the game. Definitely decent play. Definitely strong likes/dislikes. But the focus isn’t clearly on wincon, that I can tell, but on good for the game, and also being careful, which is interesting. I’ll be glad to continue to develop my understanding of Arctic.
Great about allies/lost being unlikely; if I was concerned about what you’ve said about your abilities, it would be you inviting maf to find you as an ally of some sort. Target to steal abilities from if nothing else, if that can be done here. No idea, it’s not what I do, and from my role I can’t judge if anyone else might be able to do that. You guys as a whole are better at judging that risk - sounds like you think it’s near null.
That abilities can potentially be unlocked (not specifically by me) I do believe is possible, so it does have my attention even with your ‘don’t need to worry’ comment; that said I am comfortable with any role/alignment being given abilities that can help any alignment under some circumstances, even an enemy alignment - that’s definitely possible in some of my home forum games.
Appreciate the discussion though, and your openness.
Speaking of which, in my experience if you directly inform the mod when you request the role of what you do and don’t prefer, and/or perhaps how you interpret the character, why you picked it (rand doesn’t sound like helpful guidance though) - in general, most mods I’ve had the delight to request roles/characters/abilities/whatever of, being clear about what I care about has not yet gotten me a role designed to disappoint me, one that had nothing I wanted and everything I didn’t care about or disliked.
But, make the mod guess, live with the mod’s guess, and… they can only do their best. So why not help them delight you, especially if you actually do enjoy some roles/characters/ability sets more than others?
By the way, I can’t do anything at N1 since I need dead townies first, so depending on how well town does and how bad mafia does, I might not be able to do anything at N2 as well.
13 players… 10 town; 9 excluding myself.
Huh. So basically I can unlock all four abilities. Except it’d be F3 by the time I do that, and one of my abilities stop functioning at F3 specifically. (Yeah, uh. I ain’t unlocking that one either.)
I am planning to unlock the glorified fruit vendor and maybe the passive too.
My thoughts on this - we start out not knowing anyone’s anything.
If I claim ‘X’ - and that’s all I claim, and especially if we’re D1, you 100% should evaluate everything. I could be an evil X, an evil Y claiming to be an X, or even a good Y claiming to be an X, and with good reason to lie to everyone.
So sure, sus that it’s an evil cat. But why? Have reasons past… well, they claimed and the claim can be evil.
You can be evil. But I’m not helping my wincon if I just throw darts at everyone that might be evil.
So, why do you think Leaf is more likely to be evil than not? If you think that, do you? Or are you just pondering aloud about maybes?
Oh, I am already delighted I didn’t get mafia. Every time I rand mafia I have to constantly worry about not dying, but every time I rand town, none of that worry exists.
I never played BG3 though, which was why I RNG’ed my characters in the first place.
Me either, never played. However, I did not rand my character, and I discussed why I picked it, there was back and forth a bit even to clarify and be understood. It’s probably a good idea that I did discuss it, because what stood out to me about my character probably wasn’t what stood out to the game’s designer.
