if this is implying you would have voted someone else at eod, who would you have voted?
this would have been extremely helpful yesterday after we asked you for a thorough explanation for a magnus read several times
she said youāre framing it as a policy vote rather than actually thinking theyāre suspicious (āon principleā) which is wolfy, and i donāt disagree
i think elizaās posts today are an improvement from yesterday
I agree
ā¦are these not doing the opposite of what you claim they are? unless you are saying arete is trying to pocket you by lowering their townread of me
iām not sure what youāre asking here. i have probably less experience with arete than you, and the only thoughts i have on their meta do not encompass this scenario of āarete would have explained their change moreā
eliza wasnāt a wagon at eod, which is why i donāt think your point holds any merit regardless of the placement of areteās scumreads, because they clearly scumread both magnus and eliza
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@Arete if you were a wolf, who would you have killed last night?
anyone else can answer this question if they like (with reasoning, obviously)
Well who would you have killed?
Obviously Neon because theyāre a good player, have been known to correctly read wolves several times in the past and were trying to talk down Zorvo from his absolute insanity.
I would say this implies Zorvo is town if Iām right, but to be honest I think itās just because neon scary = shoot neon
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If neon is a good player why kill them
i know i hardpushed magnus but in worlds where seth and arete are v/v i kind of expected to die regardless because iām the strongest advocate of that world and almost everyone townread me
iām not sold iām wrong yet because itās possible wolves would try to leverage magnusās scumread against me instead of killing me, but so far no one really seems to be trying to push me because of this
this is why iām going to play with my cards closer to my chest today, in the event iām being played again (see: dicey dungeons) itās imperative i make it extremely obvious this is the case
depend who my wolf partners are 
iām in a fairly good position so i would either kill someone who is townread and suspects my partners or zorvo depending on how many of the people heās pushing are town and use his legacy to push villagers (i am still assuming he is probably wrong albeit less so than before)
the neon kill isnāt surprising either, though
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does this mean you think neonās scumreads are likely to be accurate?
Well who did they scumread
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No itās purely because in my grand world I assume wolves know or at least think Neon is a good player and they were killed for that alone, irrespective of if the reads are correct or not thatās up for debate and I havenāt looked yet, entirely possible they are correct but even if they arenāt youāre better off not leaving someone who is competant around for very long.
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magnus, may, and otter
and zorvo as well, to a lesser extent.
pretty similar to my reads except i didnāt scumread otter as much
given what iāve seen from otter today iām inclined to think neon may have been correct. i donāt really buy that otter thinks itās black and white objectively wolfy for someone to propose no elimination and eliza was correct that her framing of the read āon principleā makes it seem like more of a policy kill masquerading as a genuine scumread. i donāt buy that they really cared about voting magnus for pressure to answer areteās questions in 449, and iāve consistently felt like theyāve had a narrow view of the game, pretty much only giving thoughts on one slot yesterday despite having a presence multiple times and not being inexperienced with social deduction
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hi, iām feeling a lil better today and i should start doing a lil better today
(i say at like 5 am lol)
sorry for not doing more magnus
hm
iām kind of tinfoiling something on may and otter right now
mayās eod in particular was pretty strange. iāve seen their explanation for it so iām trying to read into this factor less, but itās not something i can in my right mind ignore
iāll explain this later, but it would be fun to see if someone can pick up what iām putting down wrt may and otter
Well ig otter is odd but im sticking with zorvo
hi arete
if i were better rested, maybe iād have a more polite word for this
but this seems like a bizarrely dense thing to say lol
have you never seen someone, for example, call a push opportunistic, without thinking the person being pushed is necessarily town?
or for another example, someone calls a read tmiey, but they donāt have a preexisting townread on the person they think is being tmiād
itās justā¦ this is a very, very common kind of thing and i find it a little weird that i have to explain it
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having read today my thoughts are that arctic and zorvo are flaming villagers
and otterās posts are still just kinda bad but thatās not spicy