BOTC/BOTF Discussion Thread 2

you know for a fact you are sitting next to an evil

Litten doesnt know

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You are absolutely allowed to lie to a drunk CL about their alignment

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What the fuck

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Tune in at 11 for more cursed interactions

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none of them are as harmful or as active we’ll say as CL

A mayor win is F3, and atp the games gone on for a while, slayer shots only mechanically work for the demon and recluse and in the recluse’ case it’s still in the ST’s court to choose if that works or not

Cult leader can end the game D1 just because

I mean so can slayer but slayers like, yeah

I mean yea CL kinda needs the built in chance of just losing it for good instead or else the fact you can fire it midgame would make it broken

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God i once saw a player replace into an alsaahir slot then immediately nail their guess

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I think the only world where a cult win feels okay is voting for a cult in f3 if you know the demon isn’t on the block and you are alright might as well

Demon with Alsaahir Boffin ability just wins day 1.

Alsaahir makes good win, not ‘their team’

seems interesting
I don’t see obvious issues (for example, townsfolk that would be able to confirm themselves easily due to there being no way to imitate their ability), and there seems to be a decent amount of ways for the storyteller to balance things (while each doesn’t apply most of the time, it can likely be ensured they’ll be enough levers to pull):

  • Noble (N1 only)
  • Balloonist (can be given inconsequential info)
  • Cult Leader (alignment change)
  • High Priestess kinda (IMO the wording doesn’t really permit wolfsiding)
  • Amnesiac maybe
  • Damsel character after huntsman guess
  • Puzzledrunk player + possible token integrity shenanigans there
  • Recluse
  • Marionette stuff
  • Cerenovus’ “might”
  • Poison from No Dashii / Vigor

There are a few things I personally don’t like, but those are just my tastes
On the other hand though, I do see the potential interaction of “Huntsman Marionette chooses the Damsel and realizes their ability didn’t work, then gets to Damsel-guess for real and win” as pretty nice

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thtbthbthbthb if it was “their team”, a Alsaahir!Boffin + solo vortox + poppy grower does sound interesting

though, the demon would only get one shot before outing themselves, unless they played it off as a joke, since they’d need to guess themself as a demon

(Except potentially in some very special circumstances, I guess…)

The Marionette / No Dashii / Typhon script combo is an inspired decision. Particularly given the latter alongside Xaan, this script feels built to hide the Typhon; which makes me sorta wonder why Empath exists here? Oh, it’s to frame them as protecting a Typhon chain I get it. Cult Leader’s a little weird with Typhon, but they’ll always have the option to flip good in such a game so it’s probably just fine. This script also has the potential to just be really boring depending on the setup, and disproportionate to the amount of good information there isn’t very much poisoning that isn’t just clustered in one circle so it just becomes focused on identifying a direction and killing there… Vigormortis is the only reason to distrust the dead… ooh I love the title!!

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What roles don’t you personally like?

I’ve never seen a lord of typhon game but game theorying it i assume you might be incentivised to kill your minion neighbour at some point to not make it look super bait that a line of ppl are all alive. Vigors on script as another reason sus ppl could die and justify dodgy info within typhon line?

(having said this i am clearly awful at judging who the demon should kill based off of last game so this might be totally wrong lmaooo)

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Oh no you’re fully just correct lord of typhon has a huge incentive to kill Minions

Well, unless it just overwhelms good with voting power. Such is the LoT experience

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good demon + alsaahir boffin ability just wins day 1

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