Chapter I - The Jutting Watchtower - Red Burns (Night 3 - 17 Remain - Thread 1)

[WindwardAway]

@Vulgard

@WindwardAway

That it probably has to be taken with a grain of salt (I disagree about Magnus intentionally lying)

Probably, it seems too good to be true. But I still think Litten’s reaction to it seemed like the reaction of a wolf who was caught in what he thinks is a potential Dreamer check, and whose only way out of it is to push the agenda the check is untrustworthy.

I guess I can see him doing that as town as well, he just jumped to doing that very quickly and I’m not sure if town!Litten would do that.

Yup, exactly—
He’s not even probing at the other two names, he’s just accusing Magnus of lying and that’s it.

[Vulgard]

Like, I feel like town!Litten would maybe shitpost about it? Or think someone else in the check is mafia? Probably not instantly shut it down?

Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like this isn’t a towny reaction for him.

[Zenon]

@Vulgard

Do you think there’s a specific game-related reason for that, or is it more of an IRL thing?

Combination. Probably mostly irl but I’ve just also never felt comfortable in the thread. It’s like I’ve felt invisible and than just unable to comprehend what people were even trying to say.

[WindwardAway]

Yeah
I’m not sure if I agree with Marl’s reasoning on why Litten is wolfy, but Litten’s reaction to Magnus is pretty ehhh. And I said i would be mostly focused on reading players for their individual contributions and only secondarily consider the claimed check, but because of Litten’s handling of the check and how he reacted to both Magnus outing the info and Jarek discussing it, it doesn’t look great for him imo. And honestly, I want to townread Litten but right now I am definitely not there.

[Zenon]

[Magnus]

@Vulgard

Can it be more than one, or is it strictly one?

I claimed exactly earlier on. I’m not strictly opposed to saving the trio until later, since there’s a double greencheck if one flips evil and the possibility of false information (framers, godfathers, millers (although probably not that last one)) means it’s less than absolute.

[Magnus]

@WindwardAway

He’s not even probing at the other two names, he’s just accusing Magnus of lying and that’s it.

Litten made a point earlier on to consider a world where we’re all good as well, or at least that I was being honest and the check was false anyway and it should therefore be disregarded, yada yada. Artemis said something along similar lines about leaving it until later, but I’m just supplementing the conversation here.

[Magnus]

I would’ve expected someone to signal to me by now about something but that hasn’t happened.

[Frostwolf103]

@Zenon

@Frostwolf103

Hmm, what do you think of Magnus?

Mainly that they are Magnus and I am not town reading them.

@Zenon

Mech is always stupid

@Magnus

I have information saying there exists one Ancient Spirit between Litten, Creature and yourself (in the order received).

@Zenon

Sabi
Marl
Atlas
Guava
Artemis

Town

Ezpz

@Zenon

Add Vul and Creature to town list

Chapter I - The Jutting Watchtower - The Murder Threat (Day 1 - 25 Remain)

It’s so ridiculous that it’s probably real lol

@Zenon

Kill all liars

But Forst is walf so I’m not moving

I see.

[Vulgard]

@Litten

@Magnus

I don’t just lie about mech without purpose unless I’m evil.

Your wording here does you no favors btw nya

?

@WindwardAway

@Litten

Is this TMI that magnus is lying? Nya

OK this just feels reachy
Not least because you yourself said that Magnus is probably lying
And if you’re town, then why would you think it’s wolfy that someone else might think so?

WWA is probably a villager.

@guavagudetama

I read Magnus’ iso since they. refused to clarify when I asked but responded to a message that wasn’t directed at them
anyway
VOTE: Magnus
let’s just flip this then
it’s either scum or we have a confirmed 3 people where 1 is evil

@Artemis

I don’t necessarily agree with this, but I do think the sentiment is towny.

Yeah, that… uh… that’s just a terrible idea. Idk if I agree with it being towny, but I see why you’d say that (seemed like guava genuinely believed it was good).

Ngl, I feel like the info is iffy, even if I think Litten is playing around it in a wolfy way. The two of them are never W/W at least. Though it’s a neighborhood of Dreamers who get the same info (apparently??? I’m not actually sure if that’s what he’s claiming), I don’t think Magnus would be the one claiming this information if it put his partner Litten in danger. I’d expect someone else from the neighborhood to claim it, and I’d also expect Magnus to downplay its importance. I guess it could be done for distancing, but eh…

@Ruby

this is a bastard game where the lower the rule the more likely it can be a lie

it’s why i reminded the OP read but it’s also easy to miss

I feel like you haven’t done anything this game yet, do you have any reads?

@Creature

Italy
Litten
guavagudetama
Millium
Frostwolf103
Jaiden

I guess are my players worth of note

I broadly agree with this list. Italy in particular has done nothing while he was here, not even mech info speculation or anything.

[Frostwolf103]

I would be shocked when one of them I do townlean then might flip wolf, but I disagree with one of them

[Zenon]

@Frostwolf103

I see.

I’m not that hard to understand. If someone isn’t in my town last or means I’m not certain they are town in my mind

Magnus’ mech claim seems real. I don’t think a wolf makes it up. But I’m not confident enough to put them in my town list.

This is why my town last usually is wrong on like 1 Max. I’m very careful with who I choose to add.

[Zenon]

Might not always explain them well though lol

[Vulgard]

@Litten

Rolling over like this and letting me try to plow through Marluxion is not a good look if marluxion is town, nya.

I’m just admitting that I don’t have a good read on Marl, I didn’t say you could “plow through him.”

I’d really like to know why @Millium is wolfreading me, because that seems to be the only read she cares about.

@Litten

They stated there’s a wolf in Vulgard, marluxion, and Zenon. Out of curiosity which person do you think is the wolf, if any? Nya

I really have no idea what you’re doing. Like, even if this was a reaction test, Millium’s only wolfread that she cares about is me, so of course she’s going to say my name – regardless of her alignment. What was the point?

@Millium

I still hate vulgard

You keep saying this, but you never actually explained why.

@Zenon

Litten Sabi is T v T now kiss and make up

Why?

@Artemis

I think Frostwolf is town from the way he approached his stances on the more active players in the thread. The way he dismissed Marluxion’s case on Litten is unlikely to come from a wolf in that position.

Can you go into more detail about that?

[Frostwolf103]

I am not obliged to follow Magnus’ lead through mech either, i have no judgement between the three that Magnus mentioned are town or mafia. Saying there is one between out of three doesn’t help a lot.

[Vulgard]

@Artemis

I don’t think a wolf would outright dismiss it without serious comment in the way Frost did. I think he would at least bother to call it V/V.

I know you said this but I’d like to know more specifically why a wolf wouldn’t do this.
It’s possible I’m wrong. I need that input.

[Magnus]

You said one out of thirteen earlier but the one of three doesn’t help?

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

You said one out of thirteen earlier but the one of three doesn’t help?

Creature and Litten are in that 13, but Artemis hasn’t posted that time yet. So no it doesnt help me narrow based on your info

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

I’m not completely faithful to my information but given the confusion about false information in the OP, and it being immediate, I think there’s enough of a reason to believe it could be real instead of dismissing it entirely, there’s room to dismiss it, and I doubt every noble ping out there is false. I had a stupid read about the order indicating the pings were random instead of selected, but don’t take that as anything.

@Artemis

I know my point of view is probably biased, but I do think the best course of action is just to ignore the mechanical information and play as normal, then if reason to discuss it comes up later, discuss it then.

This does come as valuable info on the perspectives

[Vulgard]

@Zenon

How the FUCK am I the second highest poster

I’ve been paying attention to your posts up to this point and you haven’t done anything yet. You’re also oddly aware of your postcount while doing nothing.

I get that you’re not able to get into the game, apparently, but this just makes it seem like you’re just posting for the sake of posting.

@Scorbunny

you just saw one example and decided to roll w it

Didn’t you know? That’s the apex of making reads. Very effective.

@Scorbunny

bunnelby. scorbunny. your champs defender.

Oh, you’re Bunnelby? Hi! We played like… one game together. In a hydra game. I think. Maybe we played in Anni together, lol.

@Magnus

VOTE: Atlas.

Summary

I’m sorry but I think he’s just town and you’re wrong

@Artemis

If no one understands you, is that because they do not wish to understand you, or because you do not wish to understand them?

The Philosopher of FoL right here.