Cookie Thread Act 3: The Cookie Strikes Back

correct interpretation

a trenchcoat? i didnt think we were hiding it

certainly, we’d need a model of a similar scale to a deep learning neural net to meaningfully analyse a deep learning neural net. that doesn’t mean we need another fucking neural net

my most enjoyable method of talking is to pretend to be an ancient philospher and take everything seriously no matter how unhinged it is. Who wants to define what a social deduction game is with me again

Im just wondering what you think is able to analyze at that scale

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something that actually fucking works instead of racist clippy

socrates was so fucking annoying the athenians did nothing wrong

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Noting this for my philio class

Wouldn’t you just want a better neural net to analyze the other?

I think we should construct some kind of meta perfect crab to analyse all crabs off of

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“For 109 years, I have kept you alive and tortured you. and for 109 years, each of you has wondered, WHY? WHY ME? WHY ME?”

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his entire schtick was “none of us know nothing but i at least know that i know nothing” which is. one of the most pretentious things to say from someone who supposedly knows nothing

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no, i think that we should develop an entirely separate system of artificial machine learning than the current neural net model, because otherwise there’s no way for us to meaningfully say that the entire field is not flawed from first principles

lmao the literal second paragraph of the neurons paper specifically talks about having humans do it, and previous work to that effect

This has traditionally required humans to manually inspect neurons to figure out what features of the data they represent. This process doesn’t scale well: it’s hard to apply it to neural networks with tens or hundreds of billions of parameters.

(note: three different links)

for example, chess engines can’t be analyzed and critiqued by chess GMs because they lack the scaling

although we can throw chess engines at themselves and see the results as something we understand

it’s funnier when you realize that Socrates was told he’s the wisest person alive and he just walked to random strangers trying to figure out why

his other schtick was constantly asking questions. he was like a five year old who keeps asking “why?” every time you answer one of their questions but when you inevitably run out of answers he’s just like “wow you know nothing idiot.” it’s a miracle athens didn’t execute him earlier

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we shouldn’t fucking do that is what i’m saying
we create a different engine for that precise purpose

nothing isnt real everything is a thing. if you define “knowing” as having absolutely no doubt under any possible circumstances however silly you are bad and should feel bad why do you want to be miserable. like he just wanted to feel better than everyone else (according to my headcanon) but SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP