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I wonder, wasnāt the entire point of going to USA because of the enlightenment era? The one that was opposing church and kings?
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Well thereās more to it than that but Iām sure heāll figure it out
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no the USA was a slaver state first and foremost the idealism was just self-justification for that
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in order to perform intensely extractive monocultural agriculture you need forced labour and land. all the land in Europe is already in use, so you go to America and pretend the land there isnāt already in use, and then you colonise it with slave labour
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that isnāt to say the rich landowners who over time establish the United States didnāt have ideals of religious and social freedoms, they absolutely did, but economically speaking the whole thing never gets going without barbarous crimes against Africans and the natives alike
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too many big words brain fried
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Yeah and the puritans went to the US for āreligious freedomā and not because of a coup or whatever. You probably know what Iām gesturing at better than I do. Itās also not a coincidence that colonialism, a thing ruinous for everyone but the colonizers, came about immediately following the enlightenment.
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let me play you a youtube shorts video of a car running down a track or satisfying videos of stuff being made or cut to grab your zoomer attention
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Just who doesnāt love abuse, especially when you preach of God
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to be fair, it wasnāt just the puritans. the Quakers who founded the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, of the thirteen colonies the one with the least awful relations with the indigenous folk of the land, did genuinely flee persecution.
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i want to make utterly clear that I think the most neutral historical position on the founding of America is that it was a twisted mix of genuine idealism and gross self-interest, and also that these foundations do not disqualify America from being an admirable project in the future.
itās simply the responsibility of the American people to bring restitution and to create a land truly dedicated to freedom, rather than to itsā colonial pretense
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For sure, but I was referencing the Puritans specifically. And fuck the Puritans
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oh yeah the Puritans were insane. if anyone else had taken over after the English Civil War weād be in a republic right now
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The what
Us not annexing Cuba after the Spanish American war is probably the only true example of praxis of American idealism. As a nation weāve failed to live up to it pretty much every other time but like to pretend we didnāt.
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ok i watched it for a while i can see why ipad kids like this kind of stuff now
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very complicated issue but basically for like 30 years we didnāt have a King, we instead had Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell, who was a King in all but name who did unfathomably awful things to everyone in Ireland
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