Woodie’s iso reads transparently wolfy to me, so I would be shocked if they were not bussed.
Votecount as of post #1032
Wilson (4): Willow, Webber, Wormwood, Warly
Wortox (3): Wanda, Woodie, Wolfgang
Woodie (3): Wurt, Wortox, Wilson
Warly (2): Wes, WX-78
Wolfgang (1): WigfridNot Voting (2): Wickerbottom, Wendy
LIKE SURE I GUESS THIS COULD BE SCUM FROM D1 ALONE BUT I BUY HIS DAY 2 STILL SHRUG
EH I KINDA SEE IT
This feels violently wolfy.
YEAH THAT’S A LARGE PART OF WHERE MY “I KINDA SEE IT” COMES FROM
IT ALSO DOESN’T HELP THAT HE THROWS OUT WORTOX’S NAME AND THEN ENDS UP VOTING WOODIE ANYWAYS
Sounds like why Wendy died.
I will read more of wormwood’s isolation.
IDK IF I IMMEDIATELY BUY A WARLY/WORMWOOD/WOODIE TEAM BUT I ALSO HAVE NOTHING AGAINST IT.
ROUGH AF RAND IF SO.
REALISTICALLY HOWEVER I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY KILL WORMWOOD->WARLY HERE EXTREMELY SAFELY WITH VERY HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING AT LEAST ONE WOLF.
IF NOT JUST ENDING IT.
let’s check progression.
Okay, so I think this is town. They had concrete reasons to suspect Woodie day 1 but instead of going in aggressively on a wolf buddy its a limp shrug. This is not typically how people would like to bus.
I am new though so you don’t have to listen to me or anything. I just don’t see the wolf here.
Woodie doesn’t give any type of read about Warly here, just notes what Willow did.
Woodie also never interacted with Warly in anything approaching an organic way.
They interacted a lot with Wormwood. I think that’s W/V.
D1
Also as of RN im gonna work off the assumption Woodie is a new player, mostly because iv seen people as a new player told they were lying the whole game and it was quite frustrating. Plan to keep an eye on them and make a more informed decision after some more content
Tho I also had a game on a new site one time I faked being new to FM (cant remember what alignment I was tbh) but it was pretty fun to do ill say that much
hey wigfrig! do you have some wood?
@Woodie do you have any reads on anyone rn
since I’m new, I’m trying to understand the dinamics of what constitue each group. By far, I could be wrong but wortox voted as the first post without much info on anyone thus it is a wolfy thing to do…unless the first post is always a vote then it is normal here
guys, I need wood from the woods!
I need to eat
Woodie:since I’m new, I’m trying to understand the dinamics of what constitue each group. By far, I could be wrong but wortox voted as the first post without much info on anyone thus it is a wolfy thing to do…unless the first post is always a vote then it is normal here
Why is voting in their first post wolfy?
Wigfrid:wortox* is the red pfp player i kinda like rn
I agree on wortox, convos iv had with them have felt pretty natural all things considered
Wolfgang:WOODIE IS SUSPICOUSOCUS I THINK
Havent been a huge fan of their recent posts either yeah
WX-78:WHEN I MENTIONED PRE-RAND SHE SHOULD CONSIDER RECRUITING DIRECTLY, IT WAS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DIRECT RECRUITS SHOULD BE CHOSEN BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD PLAYERS.
This feels like were getting too deep into discussing player identities imo
Wolfgang:I AM TOWN AND I THINK WOODIE AND WILSON AND WOGTROZ ARE ALL SUSPICOUS SO VOTING ME MAKES SENSE
omg wolfslip!!! (/s)
Wormwood:This feels like were getting too deep into discussing player identities imo
HARDLY, IF HER RECRUITING WAS GENUINELY COMPLETE NEWBIES TO THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF FORUM MAFIA. HOW WOULD I EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN SPECULATING EVEN IF I REALLY WANTED TO? IT COULD LITERALLY BE ANYBODY.
AT THE VERY LEAST, HOWEVER, WOODIE IS PROBABLY NOT JOE BIDEN. DESPITE THE SIMILARITIES.
CAN’T NEWBIES PLAY ONE GAME TO GET THE DYNAMICS OF THE GAME? CAN’T I PLAY MY FIRST GAME IN PEACE? DO I NEED TO BE LYNCHED, EXECUTED AND MURDERED ON THE FIRST DAY / NIGHT? DAMN…WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I AM NOT UH JOE BIDEN… BRUHH
plus, why are you shouting in all caps?
I DO NOT REMEMBER SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT WANTING YOU DEAD.
ALSO, I AM NOT SHOUTING. THIS IS MY DEFAULT TONE OF VOICE.
OK, and I need wood…
obviously you are not new to fm lol so shut up
we know you arent so quit it and start solving
EDITED YOU RAT…gotcha
so can u give reads or something
ok a moment please
My read is the following:
- Wolfgang : Initially claims to be town but then corrects himself, which could be interpreted as a slip-up or an attempt to appear innocent. This inconsistency raises suspicion.
- WX-78 : Shows frustration and aggression, particularly towards me. This behavior could be interpreted as genuine frustration or a strategy to push suspicion onto me.
- Wes : Seems actively engaged in the game, making accusations and urging others to contribute. However, Wes also seems to be joking around a lot, which could either be genuine or a tactic to obfuscate their true intentions.
additionally, I need wood to chop…if you spare a tree lemme know
WX-78:AT THE VERY LEAST, HOWEVER, WOODIE IS PROBABLY NOT JOE BIDEN. DESPITE THE SIMILARITIES.
I think reading this killed me, im dead now
DID YOU FLIP TOWN OR MAFIA?
Im a neutral that makes the game flipless when I die
good luck
I just realised @WX-78 are you also changing your font lol
Moreover,
- Wendy : Advises against publicly speculating or revealing player identities, indicating a desire for caution and adherence to game rules.
- Wes again : Seeks attention and validation, displaying a playful and attention-seeking demeanor. so most likely to be a townie
- Webber : Makes observations about various players’ behaviors and contributions, showing a willingness to engage and analyze the game.
- Wortox : Offers insights into the behavior of other players, discussing potential motivations and implications of their actions.
- Willow : Provides explanations for their previous statements and actions, attempting to clarify their position and justify their reads.
- Warly : Receives a vote from Willow due to perceived lack of contribution and awkwardness in their interactions.
WX-78, Mr/Ma’m it’s the first day. I don’t think we have much info…but as we progress further and every player talks more it may become more visible who is a true vanilla townie and who’s a wolf / mafia goon…
Why are you specifying vanilla town and goon lol
Wes:they sound coached lol besides the awkward wood comments
I dont think it sounds coached but I dont really put much stock in that thought (I think it sounds more like a player trying to sound new im ngl)
not at all.
Why do you say so
(for a remind to myself when I reread in a few min I was at post 620)
are we gaming properly yet
I dont think I wanna go for woodie today but im iffy on them, mostly because a few of the things the said just didnt seem like they came from a new player?
actually
@Woodie do you have any other mafia experience (town of salem, in person, etc) or is this your first ever time doing any form of mafia game?
Wurt:if they’re wolf they used chat GPT to play the game for them and I’d still feel bad but not as much
btw I can almost promise the messages above werent chatgpt lol
I have a lot of experience with it, and its not following the format it tends to
I checked the posts in question and AI checkers tell me its not AI written btw
OKAY BUT ALSO SHROOP
Woodie:Now, let’s talk about what I saw from a thorough reading. Wendy’s wise with her questions and analysis, so I’m inclined to trust her judgment. Wes might be goofing around a bit, but he’s also asking some important questions. I don’t think Despite he’s attention-seeking demeanor, I don’t think it is a tactic to obfuscate a hidden intention or do something shady, so I’m keeping him in the town column.
what
oh, yeah no ill give you that I dont think it makes them towny not using chatgpt, just dont like everyone saying it when its pretty clearly not
I’ll be no voting D1. I have no particular thoughts on any of these wagons.
Can we CFD wendy
VOTE: Wendy
Vote, Coward.
I’m for it to be honest, may I start the vote?
Don’t kill Woodie today, if you wan’t thoughts. Otherwise I don’t care.
Why do you say not to go woodie today?
Their self entitlment is town, and their ISO has a few town pings.
Im kinda full null on woodie atm cuz I remember seeing things I expect from both new town and new wolf
Wilson:Anyway, this is an obvious town flip. Get better.
Wilson:If I got a nickel for everytime someone accused me of “lolcatting” when it doesn’t fit into the situation, I’d be rich.
Wilson:Yawn. Ping me if you want me to do something.
Wilson:Slot isn’t being coached regardless. There’s absolutely no way somebody would teach him to do something this bad.
Town entitlment.
Also, I don’t know who they would be paired with unless the entire scum team is deadweight.
Oh, wrong person.
I’m very dumb, one second!
huh
Woodie:since I’m new, I’m trying to understand the dinamics of what constitue each group. By far, I could be wrong but wortox voted as the first post without much info on anyone thus it is a wolfy thing to do…unless the first post is always a vote then it is normal here
I think it was probably this post, to be honest I forgot.
Whatever!
I do agree thats one of the things I remember expecting from a new town
I don’t mesh with any of these wagons, I have a vague feeling it’s going to be a town flip.
That’s not unexpected in 12v3 mountanious, to be fair.
Yeah.
I probably like Wilson more than Woody here, but at the same time I have a feeling my read lists are mostly correct. One second.
Both slots have verry little info and morally I dont know if I can vote the new player over the non new player slot their
VOTE: Wurt
Meh, best guess.
FINAL SUSPECT LIKELIHOOD LISTING
TOWN
- WURT - #DONTHURTWURT . I BELIEVE THIS IS TRANSPARENTLY PURE. PLEASE DON’T LYNCH IT FOR BAD REASONS IF I DIE.
I cant remember a single thought iv had on wurt off the top of my head
Honestly I’d rather let it rand at this point than just vote for Wilson.
As fmpov it means I have a rand between my top wolf read, another wolf read (A wolf-lean) and me.
Verses just going for someone who’s not my top wolf.
And realistically if I vote for Wilson, Wilson self presses onto me.
And then all it does is cause a tie between me and Wilson meaning I have a 50/50 at death and even if I survive Wilson’s not my top wolf.
I woudlnt let wilson tie it up on you lol
VOTE: Wilson
Really dont want Wortox in a rand here
A LOT OF THIS IS PRETTY CLASSIC PARTNER TALK, AND NONE OF IT SEEMS UN-PARTNERING TO ME. A FAIR BIT IS PRETTY INCRIMINATING IMO. ESPECIALLY WORMWOOD’S EOD VOTE MOVEMENT. ESPECIALLY AFTER THEIR TALK WITH WENDY.
ONTO DAY 2.
D2
WX’s end of day was atrocious
What exactly makes you say that
They were simultaneously voting woodie and trying to get Wilson killed, in a nutshell
WX-78:LIKE
DO WE ACTUALLY THINK IT’S +EV TO TAKE PURE TOWN WILSON TO LYLO HERE
WX-78:WHY ARE YOU HERE, WILSON?
THIS IS NOT A LOADED QUESTION. I JUST CANNOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME FIGURE YOU OUT.
Stuff like this make me question why they voted Woodie
I got the impression they wanted Wilson dead and yet
Yeah its not the greatest thing by itself but I think theyve been towny enough overall that their probs just town
VOTE: Wortox
Still mafia nothings changed
stopppp
Wortox:Come on, somebody please just unvote Wilson and vote for Woodie.
Or vote for me even
Siri, explain what TMI is please.
No town ever says this lmao
Eh iv said similar
also i got bored with the caps thing and pretending to be new cuz this towns pretty mid so i have to try
thanks for confirming that im not going fucking insane I was wondering if I was just misremembering who you were
im not an rper and my plan was to roll mafia and pretend to be new and annoying to get confirmed but then i rolled town but decided to pretend to be new and annoying anyway but after some reflection i decided thats slightly too antitown so i cba
I do think wortox is mafia tho
Out of curiosity do you think wortx W makes woodie town?
Probably
Would also be ok voting woodie to understand d1 counter wagon
Thank you Mr Wortox for you vote without giving a reason
You literally had a wall of reasoning yesterday, look at it.
I hope every townie had a good night sleep.
Rest in peace Wes. You were a townie friend. Will be always in our hearts and minds. And your trolls will always lighten up the upcoming days.
I appreciate your efforts Mr Wortox. Although, I’ve put a lot of effort into my reasoning yesterday and expressing my thoughts with the evidence I had on hand. However, it is important for us to be flexible and not stubborn in our reasoning. and I genuinely believe it’s important for us to continue evaluating the situation and remaining open to new information as it arises.
In the meantime, I need to get my old axe and go on chopping trees before the night. Family’s gotta eat, you know? Catch you all later!
Woodie’s tone is all over the place please help
Tone reading new players can be really hard sometimes
But I agree like I’m pretty sure I said yesterday they’ve done a few things I’d expect out of a new player on both alignments, which I’m slowly starting to lean more on the W side their. Especially cuz with how this games gone so far theirs 10000% at least one wolf in the slankers, more likely two imo
VOTE: Woodie I’ll chill here for now as I’m not super confident in any wolf reads rn, hoping to get some time to read the game sometime before eod and have more concrete thoughts
VOTE: Wortox
What kinda game is it if theirs not a three way tie
Im checking thread between doing physics problems I havent had time time to read like anything today gonna try to reread thread overnight
???
You’ve not indicated any sort of big read change on me so what is this?
I think youre town like iv said multiple times I like tying wagons makes for fun times
atp tho woodie is probably just a wolf
someone said they thought woodie and wortox were paired why was that?
AH YES I WONDER WHO THAT WAS
GOOD THING THEY AREN’T TYPING IN ANY WAY THAT WOULD MAKE IT SUPER EASY TO FIGURE OUT WHO SAID IT
I have the short term memory of a potatoe sometimes give me some slack
Eh I think its always good to have confidence in your reads, If I remember ill look at the second half tn after woodie flip and see what I think their
still pretty sure wortox is just town tho
An experienced player has no reason to rely on tool-engineered reads in the same way Woodie tried. I can believe it from a player who wanted to learn how to argue reads because they didn’t already know them. I think they’re new
is this back on the chatgpt shit or did I miss something else?
It’s the same subject matter
Do yall like actually still think that was chatgpt?? It was written weird but im like very confident it wasnt AI lmao
I think Wurt confirmed it was, actually.
I ran it through multiple AI checkers and the most I got was 25% possible AI once lol
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a coach they copied when they weren’t supposed to
You think someone coaching them actually wrote that out???
Wormwood:AI checkers
Those aren’t accurate.
They tend to be pretty accurate at confirming if something isn’t chatgpt in my experience, less reliable the other way tho
All the new players making me remember my first game where I got mis exed for a false wolf slip in a SFOL lol
VOTE: Wanda
CFD CHOO CHOO
VOTE: Woodie
Short train ride lol
Wolf is literally in the name Wolfgang people rest my case
oh fuck u right
VOTE: Wolfgang get them!!
YEAH I MEAN AGAIN I JUST SEE A BUNCH OF WAYS THIS COULD BE SCUM AND THAT’S FAR BELOW LIKE EVERY OTHER SLOT IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW
DON’T REMEMBER. PROBABLY FROM HIS TONE/APPROACH TO THE START OF THE DAY.
We disagree on the slot. However, it is day 3 with a wolf dead and I am not entirely read up so I won’t fight the chop much.
They interacted a lot with Wormwood. I think that’s W/V.
WORMWOOD ASKED WOODIE MANY QUESTIONS.
WOODIE ANSWERED THEM.
THAT IS AS FAR AS EITHER SIDE EVER REALLY GOT WITH THE OTHER DIRECTLY.
WOODIE, IN SPITE OF THESE QUESTIONS, COMPLETELY FAILED TO INCLUDE WORMWOOD IN EITHER OF THEIR BIG POSTS (THE ORIGINAL TWO GPT LISTS OR HIS LATER EOD LIST).
WORMWOOD CONSISTENTLY FAILED TO FOLLOW UP ON SOLIDIFYING A READ ON WOODIE OR FINISHING EXTRACTING INFORMATION FROM HIM. THERE ARE NUMEROUS DROPPED THREADS THROUGHOUT HER ISO THAT JUST DON’T EVER PLAY INTO HER ATTEMPTS TO ASSESS HIS SLOT AT ALL. NOTABLY, SHE HAD OPPORTUNITIES WHERE BOTH HER AND WOODIE WERE IN THE THREAD TO CLEAR THINGS UP, BUT INSTEAD OFTEN SPENT TIME COMMENTING ON/WITH OTHERS OR THROWING HIM MORE SOFTBALL QUESTIONS.
I BUY NOT AGREEING THAT THIS IS PARTNERLIKE BEHAVIOR, BUT I REALLY DO NOT SEE WHERE YOU FIND IT ACTIVELY CLEARING.