DW Invitational 3: Danganronpa: Memories of the Past: 8/14 Day 4 (Chapter 2)

[Marluxion]

@MerpyDerpy

They also attempted to gain my favor (from my understanding) by claiming their role.

Wait, someone hard claimed?

[Kork]

No, meme only flavor claimed

@Marluxion

Wait, someone hard claimed?

[Kork]

Unless they have and I didnt see it

[Marluxion]

Correct, what I know is basically what everyone else in the game knows

We also have mod stuff disabled while in game so I can’t see reports and things from this game to keep it fair, this is true whenever any mod joins a game

All I have is shiny blue shield

[Marluxion]

That’s against our hosting rules yes, you don’t need to worry about that

[guavagudetama]

Girl what

[guavagudetama]

@Hazardwaste

however this vote did feel weird.

Did you read what she said

[guavagudetama]

It’s not a weird vote if you’re paying attention LMAO wtf is Merpy doing there

[guavagudetama]

@MerpyDerpy

but it felt odd that they didn’t really explain this one and pounced.

You sussed Kanave after she explained something like so basic (“I would rather vote someone who I don’t like the posts of than someone who hasn’t posted”) and you were just like “well no ” girl yes

[guavagudetama]

And I literally said that

[guavagudetama]

Insert the captain syrup get out of my face gif

[guavagudetama]

@MerpyDerpy

Pretty sure they explained their other votes but could be wrong?

Girl.

@guavagudetama

Kanave: I’m voting Kork because I don’t care for his posts
Merpy: sus

This is the explanation like this is what you look like from my perspective

[guavagudetama]

@MerpyDerpy

Asking you the same question because your pounce vote was way too odd. I understand there was a bit of miscommunication between Kana and I, but you still haven’t unvoted. Maybe you do suspect me of being scum, and sure that’s fine, but I’d like you to elaborate more than “lmao”.

Yeah I think you look scummy as hell from that interaction
How do you not agree with Kanave saying she voted Kork because she doesn’t like his posting like
T!Merpy would have asked her to elaborate but you just went “no ” and posted a silly gif

[guavagudetama]

@MerpyDerpy

I do suspect Arturo atm given they’re mirroring the reason Arturo suspected Eliza (lack of a defense)

“Lack of a defense” this pisses me off so bad because I literally say in my next post why like did your eyes just glaze over it because you were looking for the Bubbles gif

[guavagudetama]

@MerpyDerpy

For example, if Arturo does continue to push onto me even after clarification, it is very likely that we’re unaligned.

Yeah we probably are cuz I think you’re scum
But a t!Merpy would be able to know that we could totally be t/t and bring that up to the new player instead of convincing her that we’re t/w

[guavagudetama]

But from the w!Merpy perspective you know we can’t be t/t because you’re w

[guavagudetama]

@MerpyDerpy

even if everyone claimed now, it would tell us exactly nothing

Well it would give scum insight into town abilities

Like if someone chose Kyoko Kirigiri or Shuichi Saihara they probably have an info role

[guavagudetama]

@MerpyDerpy

In fact, it would be way worse for us because mafia will be able to target someone with a strong ability.

Oh that’s literally what you said I just misread it

[guavagudetama]

@ElizaThePsycho

Okay this one isn’t as wolfy as I thought but like.

Okay this is kind of a townie thing to say

@ElizaThePsycho

(This one is gut wolfy; I can’t tell if it’s w/w or w/t tho, leaning w/w)

w/w with who? Peach?

[MerpyDerpy]

Day 1 Read Lists - Everyone Else’s Reads (But Mine For Now):

Kork:

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@Kork

Eliza isn’t defending themself which is odd, slight wolf lean I guess.
I dont think that guava is wolf currently, but if they are than meme most likely is too
Apoc could be both at this point, as I just see them sort of starting conflict, which both town and wolves do
Kanna and Marl seem alright

@Kork

Guava hard defending them from eliza’s push

@Kork

I’m just leaving this here for now, even if I do feel a little guilty this always happens on day one, I feel lole eliza is a little bit trying to guilt trip on that fact, kinda going “woe is me, this always happens, might as well not try”

VOTE: Eliza

@Kork

Current read list before I go to bed:
(Sorry Im copying u marl)

Town
Peach
Kanna
Marl

Merpy

Meme
Guava

Drinks
Apo

Eliza
Wolf

@Kork

• Peach
• Marl
• Kanna
• Merpy

@Kork

• Peach is my number one townie right now because their posts seem pretty coherent in my opinion, and what I mean by that is they don’t really seem aligned with anyone right now and aren’t really doing anything suspicious, but they are also contributing to the conversation, and making good points.
• Marl is my number two for the same reason as Peach really, might be a little biased since they are helping me know the game better currently but I’m not entirely sure on the matter, they have been trying to look for wolfy things actively though.
• Kanna is number three right now, but that’s really because I feel like they are trying to be a more of a town side putting pressure on someone, even if its me, to see if they change in demeanor when I get votes. Not much else really about them I guess right now.
• Finally, your my number four right now because you are giving a lot of information, which doesn’t inherently mean that your a townie or wolf, but I am inclined to believe you are doing it out of good faith atleast as of now

@Kork

I don’t get how this is a counter argument, all you had said really is that your a LHF and you followed a wagon

VOTE: Bee

@Kork

I dont like how Eliza is also voting Bee, but I don’t really get what Bee is trying to do, as everything that they have said has been contradictory so far, for what I’ve seen

Kork’s read list was rather self-explanatory, so I’m not going to write out an interpretation. Ty Kork <3

Hazard:

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@Hazardwaste

why did you ask drinks first? i mean like i feel the last and only mafia game i have played with them was the last Upick invitational.

@Hazardwaste

I am comfortable with eliza at the current moment.
and I do like Kanave being the hand to drive the game into a discussion rather then silence pretty early in the game too.

@Memekingpizza

nobody is a wolf. It’s mafia duh

My gut says this is weird and i dont understand why.
Is Meme newer to mafia?

@Hazardwaste

Going straight into info is usually town coded for kiiruma… but his first posts dont seem as awkward as other town games.
Usually theres more confidence.
I dont know… i heed more @Kiiruma please let me read you fuck wit

@Hazardwaste

@Apocryphal

The funny thing is that I currently find myself agreeing with Guava that Meme is probably town

i think i am not fully in agreement with this post. but i am fine with it.
I dont think they are towniest town but i dont think anything i have read has put them wolf. just alot of awkwardness which is fair for a newer player to forums.

@Hazardwaste

@Apocryphal

Guava hard defending his wolf buddy /jk

this feels weird. thanks for coming to my ted talk. its the kinda side jab during a discussion about something very different. but Apo did start this quava… sus? i dont even know anymore with the jk. a bit ago so i guess its not too out of pocket

@Apocryphal

@Hazardwaste You are a wolf, what do you say in your defense

noting this interaction down

@Hazardwaste

@PrincessPeach

I am also here “camping” the thread, but I am more of a watcher than a talker in these. I like to observe and analyze my own thoughts.

Imma not this down for later. but my gut tells me you were very different in the purg game i was in with you

@Hazardwaste

@Marluxion

hazard just feels like he’s holding back for whatever reason, kinda reverse merpy read here

holding back what? the fuck you mean holding back?

@Marluxion

merpy seems both natural and wants to be in thread and posting which i heavily associate with town, wolves typically post when they have to unless they are extremely good

I do agree with this one tho.

@Hazardwaste

@Kanave

I’m just kinda assuming there’s some form of anti-claim. Or at the very least wolves get more info to make guesses on. shrug

townie

@Hazardwaste

Anyway
Kana and Merp are probably town
Meme and Kiiruma i think need to have an eye on them
I think their is possibly a wolf in eliza/Quava/Apo.
I need to go to class and not fail again. seeya in 2 hours

@Hazardwaste

@Hazardwaste

eliza/Quava/Apo.

But to give a brief explanation. Eliza and Quava interactions have been weird and i am not the biggest fan of apo being on the side line not really taking sides until quiet recently

@Hazardwaste

I dislike the silence but i dont know what else to talk about

From the three i said there is probably a wolf in i think i wanna know more from eliza or at least more of her head state before i dive too deep on it. but i dont… hate Quava’s last few hours in text.

@guavagudetama

LMAO

VOTE: MerpyDerpy

however this vote did feel weird. but Quava has done weirder day 1 so i dont really know.
fuck i am talking myself out of this

i wanna focus more on apo and eliza. i feel like people have yet apo slip through the cracks a bit without really grilling them. Eliza i dont really have anything new to say on cause she literally hasnt said anything else since i woke up…

… I’m gonna have to iso Apo now

@Hazardwaste

@Apocryphal

This is not me defending Eliza, this is just me being funny

this is probably nothing but i dislike the clarification that “this is a joke dont take this seriously” i feel like she is trying to seperate herself from something.

My Interpretation Of Their Read List:

Town:
Kana
Merpy

Null:
Meme
Kiiruma

Scum-Lean:
Eliza

Scum:
Arturo
Apo

Meme:

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@Memekingpizza

upvote this NOW!

This is in response to one of Kana’s messages.

@Memekingpizza

I think I shall shed some light on the me and Eliza connection. We just play os often with each other. So any reads we make on each other aren’t really that valid. Besides words but trying to describe each others personality is going to be hard for the both of us.

@Memekingpizza

real
VOTE: Bylamir

This is in repsonse to Kana pressure voting Kork.

The only things I gathered are that they town-read Kana and probably scum-read me.

Eliza:

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@ElizaThePsycho

@Memekingpizza

I should probably learn how to vote just in case or die n1

Wolfy
Feels like they feel like they need to justify learning a basic game mechanic

@Memekingpizza

So many terms that i need to learn or I could die first

This is also wolfy
Too concerned with dying d1

@Memekingpizza

I was about to jokinly vote kana

Very wolfy

VOTE: Memekingpizza

@ElizaThePsycho

@Apocryphal

Something something newbie town and bad wolf typically get read exactly the same

…do they

@ElizaThePsycho

@guavagudetama

Okay but how much mafia does she actually get to play as opposed to afking for 80% of d1 and getting shrugyeeted

@Apocryphal

That’s a skill issue on her part

@guavagudetama

Anyway it’s simmering in my brain and I actually kinda hate that Meme read Eliza made that didn’t feel good faith at all

VOTE: Eliza

Fellas…

@ElizaThePsycho

Bee is wolf sorry for the rand
VOTE: Bee

@ElizaThePsycho

Bee iso quotes that are suspicious

@BeesWax

I was told by a Miniature Flight Creature that when people try to vote for eaxh other and fight, theres a possible chance theyre both bad

But since like…all 3 POVs are all trying Eliza, should we go them? Like all speculation is pointing them

Okay this one isn’t as wolfy as I thought but like.
Idk it just strikes me as “I am trying to bullshit reasoning for whatever reason”

@BeesWax

So…when YOU out yourself, its perfectly correct and you’re safe

But when MEME ours themself (from what ive heard), theyre even more suspicious

(This one is gut wolfy; I can’t tell if it’s w/w or w/t tho, leaning w/w)

@BeesWax

They started with a False persona and then switched into a, by the standards of a skilled Forum Mafia Player (you, I think), a wild claim

Eliza wolf-reads Meme and Bee. That’s all I saw.

Bee:

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@BeesWax

I was told by a Miniature Flight Creature that when people try to vote for eaxh other and fight, theres a possible chance theyre both bad

But since like…all 3 POVs are all trying Eliza, should we go them? Like all speculation is pointing them

@BeesWax

Less its like, Art/Apo/Haz doign maasive brain plays

@BeesWax

I remember people saying Meme is Suspicious and him claiming out his role was him being desperate
wasnt saying you, I was saying just in general
then people thought I was the crazy one and said to ignore my messages
fair

Bee thinks there is a wolf between Apo, Hazard, and Arturo. They seemingly also suspect Meme.

Drinks:

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@Drinks

She seems way more aggressive than I remember

This is in relation to Arturo’s push on Eliza.

Drinks distrusts Eliza to some extent.

Peach:

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@PrincessPeach

I am not personally reading Eliza as town. I’ve played one game with her before, where she did pretty much the same thing. And if she WAS wolf, I dont see any reason for her to step into the spotlight to be the first hard accusation of the game, nor do I think her reasoning is good enough or well thought out enough for it to really be a wolf read trying to convince us. I also don’t think her reactions to being accused are very scum.

That being said I think her read was really bad and I dont think Meme is scum based off of it.

@PrincessPeach

I want to cosign this.

I think there is 100% a wolf in these three. The push on Eliza makes me think its not her, quite frankly.

If Eliza knows Meme, the reverse could be said about people knowing Eliza. From what I can tell from the discussion so far, being someone whose only played what 3 times before, she gets upped for a similar reasons as this game, and apparently has a reputation for it, so strong pushing her to me personally raises eyebrows for arturo. And I also agree that I do not like how much Apo was talking during the discussion of eliza vs meme without taking a strong side, and I don’t like alot of her replies or messages to Hazard in particular. For my own personal reads, for apo and guava, they are both scum leaning.

This is in relation to Hazard’s claim that there is a wolf within Eliza/Arturo/Apo.

@PrincessPeach

As for my town reads, I trust Marl. And shockingly, I likr Korks messages alot despite usually finding Korks behaviour… suspicious. Maybe that in itself is suspicious lol.
But for now, my hard town leans are Marl and Kork. Hazard, Kanave and Meme are leaning slightly to town, and I’m pretty neutral on everyone else.

@PrincessPeach

I would also like to put pressure here. Not a fan of saying you’re backreading the thread but than not having anything to say about anything you backread, so would like to hear some opinions.
VOTE: Bylamir

@PrincessPeach

Okay yeah thats also fair. Shes not a hard read for me but this is true. I just do not personally think her push was very scum-like

This was in my relation to my argument against Eliza.

@PrincessPeach

I don’t know how to quote, and I’m sorry, but Bees push unto me and than immediately flipping to Eliza just seems really bad faith to me, especially when the reasoning is considered

The push unto me, in my opinion, doesn’t make sense at all. I claimed a character, nothing about my role, and Im being pushed hard by Bee for it. Something that Bee thinks Meme did as well.

I think the statement “so when you do it its fine, but when meme does it its suspicious” after only pushing me is extremely wolfy and contradictory with your own push and your own suspicious being narrowed in on only me.

And than instantly flipping unto jumping unto the biggest vote train, Eliza, when their reasoning for their push unto me was forced into questioning. And saying for the reason that its a strategy they heard but not really explaining why they believe Eliza being wolf to be true. Just wanting to jump unto the vote train well not expressing their own feelings about Elizas actual actions or messages.

Now I HATE reading people wolf for their pushes unto myself, because I feel like being pushed by someone can obviously make you biased against them, but I feel like for good reason, I consider Bee to absolutely not have good faith in their arguments.

VOTE: BeesWax

My Interpretation For Their Read List:

Town:
Marl
Kork

Town-Lean:
Hazard
Kana
Meme

Null:
“Neutral on everyone else”

Scum-Lean:
Eliza
Scum:
Bee

Bylamir:

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@Bylamir

End of reading opinions. Here’s mine

Marl says a lot of long and funny words that I lose track in some of his more indepth messages. But I’m sure there’s substance somewhere in there

Eliza Sus (Obviously)

Guava has felt very aggresive, which is good!

Drinksfire!

Peach is definitely trying to play a character, I’d imagine it’s the one they hard claimed a while ago.

Merpy is actively trying. High five

I’m less sus on meme solely because what I read earlier feels like something I’d post LMFAO

And I don’t really have any comments on the rest because I cannot remember anything they’ve said that stuck out to me LMFAO

Kiiruma:

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@Kiiruma

Hazard feels unusually stilted compared to usual but I don’t know what that means for him because he’s not usually like this. His pseudo-fencesit on me is something he’d usually avoid doing no matter what. It makes me think he tried interacting with me and my ability did its thing…

Kiiruma doesn’t trust Hazard.