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[Zone_Q11]

FTR, we’re still not in a “fairly neutral game”.

“Something” would have happened if I were to learn Kiiruma’s alignment, and whatever this “something” is, the hosts don’t want “it” to happen.

Whatever it is, I still disagree on the call. Because today’s MYLO; nobody can deny that. There is just no way we will vote [No Exe] when CD and Guava are confirmed town. So effectively, today’s might as well be LYLO, and there is no benefit in delaying the inevitable with voting [No Exe] since Genie and Backup are dead.

Wish transfer was not allowed. Well, okay. I guess leaving everything over to a confirmed town is too town-sided. Fine. This is acceptable.

But why was the cop check on Kiiruma denied? Again: I still need to convince people I am not scum, and there is a non-zero odds that Achro can convince me that his read on Icet/Kiiruma being not W/W is wrong.

Well… nah. He’ll probably just say I’m scum. I still don’t believe Achro’s town. Icet already said I’m scum over Kiiruma. (Even though he’s had a change of mind recently for whatever reason.)
It won’t surprise me if Achro -the one who knows me better than myself- would say that I am scum as well.

Now where was I? Oh yeah. I disagree on the call. Not giving me cop check makes no sense.

[Zone_Q11]

Damn. I miss the KISS days.
Why can’t we return to D1?

[Corrupted_Dreamer]

game is solved, vote achro

[Corrupted_Dreamer]

VOTE: Achromatic

[guavagudetama]

@Achromatic

I am baffled at the idea the hosts denied a scan at mylo tbh

I wasn’t until I realised there’s like a 50/50 chance Zone is scum and lies about Kiiruma’s alignment

@Zone_Q11

I suppose the only player whose reads have yet to be heard (or remembered) is @guavagudetama’s, but if he sides with CD/Icet/Achro, then the game’s practically over already.

I’m kinda being forced to side with them on account of thinking Kiiruma is scum
I still think Kiiruma/Icet has equity just as much as Kiiruma/Zone

Also CD is never scum simply because he’s never getting voted out
If he’s scum we’ve already lost so just assume he’s town

@Achromatic

Guava is currently voting kiiruma

Literally

I feel like EVERYONE wants Kiiruma to die though which is my issue idk if scum busses here

Except Icet wanted Achro right? Or did I misremember

@Achromatic

So if you are town i have made a mistake unpairing icet/kiiruma and you need to help me see it.

This is what I’m going to look into today after the work I have to do (an indeterminate amount of time but I’ll be free in pst evening)

@Zone_Q11

You already made a read saying Icet/Kiiruma are not W/W.

Wait, you don’t think it’s Icet/Kiiruma? What?

@Zone_Q11

Self-voting is not allowed, and Guava seems dead set on voting you out,

I think that Kiiruma is most likely to be a wolf out of the four of you but I’m willing to take a risk on someone who isn’t Achro
Like I was already townreading Jaiden and Achro really hasn’t read to me as particularly scummy — like yeah, he defended Jake, but so did I and I’m confirmed town if you believe CD to be town
I know some people here think I’m just stupid but I don’t think this is a smoking gun against Achro lol

@Kiiruma

@guavagudetama I understand your suspicions on me.
But please, listen to me here

UNVOTE

Okay

@Kiiruma

I tried to stop us on Hazard, I pushed Jake when nobody else was.
Don’t let Achro powerwolf. He’s too good at it if you let him.

I still think he’s town but
Hhhh I don’t remember you pushing Jake at all I hate my fucking memory
I should be taking notes

@Achromatic

Youve been in the game since day 1 and i have managed to narrow it down more than you. Pretty insane tbh

Do you think this is alignment indicative?

Given what I know of the two of you this seems right on the mark just based on your personalities in general

@IcetFeelsPain

It’s probably achro and Kiiruma

Putting a pin in this for later I might need it

@Corrupted_Dreamer

game is solved, vote achro

Really?

[guavagudetama]

@Zone_Q11 @Kiiruma Achro is L-1

Icet if you hammer this when we’re not even half way through the day I will literally never forgive you /lh

[IcetFeelsPain]

hammering

[TheGreatRunas]

Achromatic (3): Zone_Q11, Kiiruma, Corrupted_Dreamer
Kiiruma (1): Achromatic

Not Voting (2): IcetFeelsPain, guavagudetama

[IcetFeelsPain]

ok so im confirmed not scum with Kiiruma and Zone

[IcetFeelsPain]

take that

[IcetFeelsPain]

@guavagudetama

Wait, you don’t think it’s Icet/Kiiruma? What?

I don’t think it’s Icet / Kiiruma either

[IcetFeelsPain]

besties now that I’m not hammering do you have updated reads of any sort

[guavagudetama]

Yeah I no longer think it’s Icet/Kiiruma lmao

[guavagudetama]

Achro/Icet
Zone/Kiiruma

If these are the possible pairs I understand why Zone’s wish would be denied

[guavagudetama]

Though for some reason Achro’s partner could be voting him
Which I could see Zone doing
And Kiiruma doesn’t exactly seem confident in his reads

[guavagudetama]

But Icet is never not paired with Achro or he would have hammered him

[IcetFeelsPain]

@guavagudetama

Though for some reason Achro’s partner could be voting him

bussing in MYLO makes sense if you aren’t able to get me / Zone / Kiiruma executed

[IcetFeelsPain]

Simon has too much thread control

[guavagudetama]

@IcetFeelsPain

bussing in MYLO makes sense if you aren’t able to get me / Zone / Kiiruma executed

This argument tracks for Kiiruma, but why wouldn’t Zone have just been on Kiiruma’s wagon with me and Achro pushing Icet/Kiiruma?

[Kiiruma]

I’d been pushing Icet for a good while this game.
Then I pushed Jake, starting the wagon on him when there wasn’t one.
I’m the one advocating for us to follow up on it with the obvious wolf slot after this as well.

I was able to continue on with my thoughts but I didn’t.
I learned and adapted.