But also tbf Kiiruma converted me that one time and I immediately killed myself so
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I have my one game as lost scum. I did nothing in it but I had it. I am good for a long while
That I was right, that people might finally correctly read me instead of building me into several evil teams.
That others should realise that reevaling others is genuinely important.
IDK! Like, itâs really helpful for us if Icet flips and flips as I think they will.
After all, if youâre thinking (for example) that exeâing CD and then me is a good idea then if Iâm wrong about CD then thisâll be just chain-exeâing 2 townies and I would want to avoid that as much as possible. If Iâm right then ofc thisâll be fine and Iâm just worrying over nothing.
But idk, Iâm trying to be logical.
Out of context this is sad
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No, thatâs wrong!
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The way this is written it seems as though you think we get nothing from CDâs flip, but from my perspective it tells me a lot about the scum team
Specifically: I donât see a world where Hazard and CD arenât t/w, and we NEED to solve that, and I think CD is more likely scum than Hazard
Being right does not make you townie. Being wrong does not make you scummy. I feel like Iâm talking to a brick wall with how many times Iâve had to say this.
What are you gonna do when people looks at their reads again and still donât agree with you?
If Icet flips scum, who are their partners?
If Icet flips town, what is the scum team?
Forgot to explain why I quoted this in particular
I disagree with the use of the word just here, and as I go onto explain itâs a rhetorical choice that leads me to believe you donât think anything comes out of CDâs flip if they are town when I think we get a lot of info
Ok⌠fair enough.
We do get a decent amount of info I guess.
I just happen to trust Hazard so if youâre saying that Hazard/CD is T/W then to me, CD would be the W. I also donât disagree with this.
But I donât want us to set up a chain of âWe exe this person if we hit a townyâ because thatâs just gonna spiral and get worse and worse.
The chain has one link 
Itâs literally
CD â Hazard
Iâm not asking you to execute my entire exact idea of what the scum team is Iâm just saying that I think one of them is scum and if CD is town Iâm gonna try to get Hazard voted out
I would still like an answer to these
Why do people think me and CD are t/w. Would like some shown evidence before i explore that myself.
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If Icet flips scum, I could see Jake being a teammate and someone who is relatively null read in othersâ reads. I feel like mafia would be coasting a bit more if Ice is scum because Icet is a fairly big voice in the thread.
As for if Ice flips t, Jake Jaiden and Ashlyn?
I feel like in that world, Ashlyn/Arctic probably did have a wolf and it would be Ashlyn but weâre kinda⌠2 executions down at that point.
I could not think of a world that makes sense to me that doesnât include one of you
I could look over it again but I think that at least one of you is a wolf
Except with the way CD is acting youâre not paired so that would make exactly one of you a wolf
*3 executions down at that point (CD, Hazard, Icet)
Then literally what has Jake been doing defending Hazard this whole time
Can I get names of people that fall under this category?
If you think Jake is a scum regardless of Icetâs flip then why donât you vote Jake?
What makes you suspicious of Jaiden?
Is that Jaiden read in relation to Icet or were you just already suspicious of her?
Is Ashlyn being suspicious in relation to Icet or were you already suspicious of her?
Where did Arctic/Ashlyn having a wolf come from?
You forgot to count Eliza but also. When I said âif Icet flips Xâ that was assuming we execute them today, not after CD and Hazard. Knowing CD and Hazard were viable options, do your answers change?
Me when scum
Me in my interrogation arc
A little detective if you will
No because Iâm probably not gonna get my way in exeâing Icet today, will attempt to get it tomorrow while you push Hazard if CD flips T and then will be crying to do it again if wrong still.
Actually⌠now that I think about it, I think you planning chain executions is⌠really damn scummy because we donât exactly have many executions left. We have 11, 9, 7 (Assuming mafia kills 1 each night.)
If we fail to hit a wolf in these 3 next executions, we straight up lose unless a night kill if prevented via a wish or something.
And if mafia uses an extra kill, then we can lose even before that.
We might only have today and tomorrowâs execution.
Assuming mafia wishes for something like kill power.
So you setting up CD and then Hazard reads very very off now that Iâve come to this realisation. Fuck.
I donât really care about that
Iâm saying if you did get your way
If we flip Icet right now, is what I was asking
Iâm trying to convince you to convince me to vote Icet since you want to be all like this:
Even though Iâm confident that thereâs a wolf between two people
Okay, but think about it from my perspective
I, as a townie, understand that we have 2 misexes before lelo
Because of this, I am trying to get a pair of people executed who I am confident contains one wolf, since we donât really have time to execute someone and have them flip town and not know where to go from there
You walk in and say âactually, no, weâre gonna execute this person instead who I think is scum even though Iâm also scumreading exactly one person in the pair of people you said had one wolfâ and then start sussing me
This just reads like you and Hazard are scum buddies and you want him to live
Do you understand that it just looks like the scumteam is Kiiruma/Hazard/Jake to me right now because of your actions?
All youâve done in these posts where you turn on me is make me think youâre scum. Youâve managed to pull me out of my CD tunnel and make me think Hazard is the scum in that pair instead!
VOTE: Hazardwaste
Actually no fuck that I donât care about wagons
VOTE: Kiiruma