[Game Thread] Morbtainado - Morbfia EPIC win

[Achromatic]

Okay may is apparently a dragon and is making great points. Who is the 3 person wolf team iyo atm

[thepigeonnyc]

Eliza Leafia and uhhhh
Kanave bc I have no one else to write down and they haven’t provided much

[Achromatic]

I will say pigeon if i had more experience with you and knew your wolf range better and still felt like you were being sincere i would probably hard stop your lynch today as much as i possibly could. I just buy this as town from you. But i dont and i think ignoring the discussion around you being valuable is selfish play from me tbh. And if you flip wolf i will feel like an even bigger fool to not go with a good day one play.

That being said 2/3 of those names are potentially spicy flash wagons.

[Zorvo]

I don’t think that worlds possible.

Not sure who I would go with after that, I’d definitely hard re-eval.

[Achromatic]

This is my eternal conflict

‘I recognize the right play’

‘But i am not wrong so fuck everyone else’

The second works out an alarming amount of the time and may explain my ego.

[Zorvo]

@May

Damn, I ask irritating questions. I really can’t make out what’s going on with Zorvo, and I’d love to see a flip there so that I can stop thinking about him - there are some decent connections to be made, I think. Not a really strong answer, but it’s late.

I noticed your very flip floppy on reading me.
Like your not sure which way to go.

Pretty sure you also mentioned it had something to do with the way I went about with Leafia?

I was just adding a little bit more then what Eliza and Mist had been adding, that’s really it.

[Zorvo]

@Achromatic

In pigeon v worlds i feel better about both

I’m the opposite here.
Pigeon and Magnus I feel are opposite alignments as I have stated previously.

[Achromatic]

Actually this is a good point by zorvo. I dont get how you can be that confused by zorvo here unless you dont recognize the position wolves are in this game. Like zorvo is almost always town here unless he has an incredibly aggressive wolf range.

[Achromatic]

Can you go over that again? Sorry for making you repeat but phone sucks for iso lol

[Magnus]

I’ll admit I was still on the fence about voting Pigeon, prior to the interaction you had here. From what I remember, the FM on this site (excluding botc), Pigeon and I came to an early agreement about a certain read when I was Town, and I superficially figured history might’ve been repeating again.

@Achromatic

Town though can sometimes accept their death to help town.

There are times where it’s preferable for a villager to fight; late game, middle game, crucial votes, has been and will be useful either way… although for a D1 wagon, town can afford a misstep — which doesn’t mean villagers should be eager to let themselves be executed, although it should be kept in mind. Pigeon’s response isn’t self-incriminating, although it doesn’t help in any case.

@Achromatic

Which if true and pigeon is town means my evil theory about non voters having increased eolf equity make more sense.

Kind of a shotgun read but its like… they dont appear in their element either way. Like yeah i would love to have three wolf reads right now and be right like zorvo is going for but i have played enough mountainous to know thats not how it works.

Are you referring to Pigeon or the nonvoters here?

@May

With Pigeon as town, I feel a bit weird about Misty, though it’s hypocritical of me to say given the reasons I suspect her are all things I’d do. I’m not sure it’s really a read I can explain at the moment, just an instinct.

With Pigeon as mafia… also Misty. Again, not sure why. I think it’s partially that I just find it difficult to read Min’s lack of substantial posts (more people should empty their minds and type paragraphs on paragraphs into a computer screen with absolutely no filter like me, I think that would improve every mafia game, forever) and difficult to read Jaiden in general.

I have Misty written down as TR in my notes, but I’m happy to reanalyse if you like.

@Achromatic

So in pigeon wolf worlds i am staring a fucking hole into magnus and leafia tomorrow. Since magnus is being trained right now probably leafia in that world. But if she flipped v would be real interested in magnus and i having a long chat.

In pigeon v worlds i feel better about both for going with me on this fun exercise but it wouldnt be clearing.

It would have a lot of interesting implications that from memory, because phone posting still. Hm. Actually lots of interesting thoughts on magnus implications. I feel like i need to widen my scope on that but yeah magnus gets more discussion.

Pigeon v worlds would also make his wagon being pure less likely. Just from sheer numbers and wolfy opportunism.

I’ve been learning a lot this game. I’ve been trying to play better, too.
Keeping this and May’s response in mind, a rough draft could be:
Pigeon (W) > Leafia.
Pigeon (V) > Mist.

[Zorvo]

@Achromatic

Hey pigeon. I know you wanted me to be your savior but how does being a spicy information lynch day one sound instead?

No honestly we don’t need that.

Magnus actually gives more IMO if you wanna hold onto that pole.

[Zorvo]

@thepigeonnyc

Eliza Leafia and uhhhh
Kanave bc I have no one else to write down and they haven’t provided much

Just a Tip if your town.
I’d try making more reads here because Me and Mist had a very similar opinion to that of Eliza regarding Leafia.

[Zorvo]

@Magnus

Pigeon (W) > Leafia.
Pigeon (V) > Mist.

How does Pigeon/Leafia Wolf Team even make sense?
What is the Mist read coming from?

Is this a rundown of May’s thoughts? Or?

[May]

I’ve never lied about going to sleep, by the way. Nope. Not something I’d ever do. Heavily opposed to lying in mafia games.

You seem to be making contributions to discussion, but I just can’t get a handle on the source of your opinions, and that makes me feel weird reading you as town. I think it’s not even necessarily that I specifically think some of your posts are wolfy, I just think they’re confusing, and that throws me off when trying to place a read.

I don’t quite remember the specifics of what confused me - my memory’s awful late at night - and I should probably go over your posts again tomorrow to try to re-evaluate. Honestly, selecting you to have voted off was a pretty lazy answer, and I don’t think I’d stand by it if asked again.

[thepigeonnyc]

Honestly you’re probably not wrong about Leafia
And my Eliza read falls apart
Wow I’m terrible at this

[Achromatic]

Question. Are you so sure of magnus if he flips town you are willing to eat a mislynch tomorrow? Like king maker. If i had you that gun would you pull that trigger?

[Zorvo]

@May

I’ve never lied about going to sleep, by the way. Nope. Not something I’d ever do. Heavily opposed to lying in mafia games.

When did I say you did?

[May]

If you could explain your position here to me, that would be great, because it’s entirely possible there’s just stuff that’s going over my head here lmao

[Zorvo]

@May

discussion, but I just can’t get a handle on the source of your opinions

Quote the ones you take issue with.

[May]

Ah, you never said I did, I just ended my last post with how I was going to bed, which was very much not true