GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

[Vulgard]

Idrc if you townread me but I think it’s better if we work together. Our worldviews are actually more similar than I previously thought they were and I’m willing to accept myself being tunneled on Magnus if you’re willing to accept that I might be more correct about the game if Silviu doesn’t flip mafia.

[Vulgard]

@Marluxion

Ok who’s a wolf?

Magnus but you think I’m joycatting so I’ll settle for O. Kazo I guess.

[Marluxion]

At meeting at work so can’t give full attention for another hour or so
Summarize your case as organized as you can for me and I will read it word for word when I’m off in an hour

Include p# or quotes if you can to make it so I don’t need to ask for them

[Magnus]

[Zorvo]

Everyone vote O.Kazo this slot needs to be resolve today they are -EV to allow to live past today.

VOTE: O.Kazo

[Vulgard]

@Marluxion

Why Is the burden of proficiency on me instead of you when you are by far the more respected player?

Because the Silviu push is yours and not mine, and you’re not willing to listen to me on Magnus?

There’s not really a case that I have on O. Kazo, I just think their posting is incredibly lame and I keep forgetting they exist which usually happens with wolves.

[Zorvo]

If this flips wolf look at both Marluxion and Vulgard, I think they are a difference check or I’m being bambozzled by Min.

[Zorvo]

You could also vote Lol right after an O.Kazo!Wolf flip As well.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

Because the Silviu push is yours and not mine, and you’re not willing to listen to me on Magnus?

Like, I tried to push on Magnus and you called me for the push, and I tried to push on you and you called me mafia for the push. I don’t think me trying in vain to push through my read first is going to be at all productive until you stop stonewalling me, and since you might be more correct than I am in theory I’d rather find out if I’m wrong about the gamestate first or not.

[Magnus]

It’s usually easy to find one person to scumread. Would you say there are any other players (other than the ones you’ve already mentioned) you have an unfavourable opinion on? Anyone else at all would do.

[KingTroll]

silv iso but i complain about how meta-readheavy fol is before i get used to it

@Silviu200530

Also Eliza, also to not be mean. But you really have to step up your game. During most game I’ve seen, you’re losing engagement and dissapear, maybe you are busy, but there’s also people who can be busy with their lives and still manage to get townread. The reason why you precisely get scumread (presumably) is because you pop into the thread and the backlog looks intimidating, so you think you will do better if you comment to what pops up on the spot, but well, that doesn’t always work, you can’t make your mind up based on a few selective posts, you need to look at the behavior in general.

i do like a post asking people to talk more however given how it’s seemingly based on “this is what’s going on overall” it’s not actually useful and seems a touch performative

@Silviu200530

Also meta-read for Trollo, not sure how effective this is, this is just a blind guess as people can literally be different when they’re playing FM, like me right now. This is the first time in like 5y+ he decided to play again. I would presume Trollo would be hyperactive and I suppose impulsive when an upsetting situation arises, but no worries, I don’t think he will done legit get Happy Tree House levels of upset.

as much as i don’t like how marl responded to this i also don’t like this. at best this is nai at worst this is more performance

man going through these isos fol has a really meta heavy read style. good for me that i change my meta whenever i feel like it lmao

@Silviu200530

@Vulgard

I think bothering to write this type of opening post by hand is the towny kind of effort, because most wolves wouldn’t feel the need to do that.

Meh considering Early EoD is reserved specially to messing around, I’d doubt that has anything .

actually i know this is a silv iso but i didn’t know vulgard said that. must’ve missed it got to agree with silv here

@Silviu200530

Would wolf try to straighten up their spine and try to do an effort to be productive by wallposting or would a wolf try to take the simple way out (by picking a comment and speaking about it, repeat 20x and then leave)?

interesting. as much as i don’t think either of those circumstances are directly ai for them i think this sentence comes from a townie perspective

@Silviu200530

Uh oh it seems that I will die as I can’t provide such mighty reads on a phone at school.

i would like more solid reads when you get the chance because at best you’re nulltown so i can see town full on voting you. step up the content game

@Silviu200530

VOTE: lol, meh this guy isn’t doing much and complains that others doesn’t do 'em. I am willing to commit to OMGUS’ing them.

don’t like this vote at all though. especially not the reasoning when there’s been much more ai moments other players have done or even better reasons to go for lol

@Marluxion

i trust my townreads pretty often
like when vul was alive in kaguya sama i probably would have sheeped him to the ends of the earth if he asked me to

know i’m in the silv iso but hi marl. this directly contradicts something you said in your iso about never trusting as town unless they get mechanically confirmed

[Zorvo]

Silviu is just obvious ML LMAO.

58/150

[Vulgard]

@Magnus

It’s usually easy to find one person to scumread. Would you say there are any other players (other than the ones you’ve already mentioned) you have an unfavourable opinion on? Anyone else at all would do.

I literally just wrote a post detailing my thoughts on all the players I didn’t townread, I sometimes think I’m invisible despite how much I write.

[Zorvo]

To give an idea on the difference between O.Kazo this game and O.Kazo last game.
O.Kazo’s first like 7 posts were all just questions about stuff or towards players.

[Vulgard]

UNVOTE

Actually I don’t want to be voting yet.

[Host_Account_1]

Silviu200530 (4): mollylikesorigami, May, BradLand, Marluxion
O.kazo (3): Magnus, lol, Zorvo
BradLand (2): ElizaThePsycho, Lemonfairy
Marluxion (2): min, KingTroll
Vulgard (1): O.kazo
lol (1): Silviu200530

Not Voting (2): YoubutWorse, Vulgard

[Zorvo]

@O.kazo

Did something happen while I was away?

Here this is all he has done in regards to early questions and it’s nothing like their town game.

Like his first post was a joke in response to Elizathepsycho.

@O.kazo

I’m mafia with you.

[Magnus]

One sec, my bad, if I didn’t check. I’ll go do that.
…Actually, no. I remember that post, I just blanked, although you had a lot of players unlisted.

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

@Vulgard

I don’t like his worldview, and I think his posts about potentially dying are fake. He also townread me too easily earlier, and he defended Magnus based on thin reasons, without really acknowledging what I had to say about him.

yeah i was gonna say this stuff tbh
had some stuff prepared regarding marl’s posts about potentially dying
erased it cuz i thought it was stupid for a bit
evidently this means it isn’t stupid
i am now reconsidering if that townlean earlier was justified

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in conclusion
this is the only useful thing out of the things i read (i did skip a good number of posts though)
(other than the marl posts)
and i guess there was a thing about min not being obvtown but i forgot to quote it so

[KingTroll]

magnus/vulgard/marl at least one maybe two wolves. not the full wolf team. marl and vulgard hyperfocusing eachother when other people are directly trying to communicate to them gives off horrid vibes and marl only cherrypicking one thing out of my iso on them gives poor vibes for both of them but honestly

VOTE: Vulgard

world where this is wolf who’s been performing while marl just decides to only really interact with one person for some reason is much more likely to me than them both being w/w. not sure what this means for vul/magnus but i will burn that bridge when i cross it or something