Happy Tree Friends FM - Game Thread Night 3 13/20

[Achromatic]

No. Defense. Focus please, Leafia. Focus on your own pursuit. I promise if I find you as town you will be safe but you have to listen.

So please focus on your task!

[Zone_Q11]

@Vulgard

Honestly, this is okay. I don’t think the min shot was a good idea (I townread them) and I was starting to townread Zorvo but it could be worse and we have an NK down.

/vote Zone_Q11 @Buddhist_Monkey

Maybe we should take the other one down?

@Vulgard

Zone - Vig claim probably comes from town

[Vulgard]

I’m obviously still going to hear you out but that’s how I feel about the current gamestate
I might still change my mind

[Achromatic]

Okay, but you didn’t answer my main question lol. Would you consider him sloppy as wolf to get facts wrong?

I’ll look into those interactions later as well.

[Vulgard]

I decided that my pet theory of you being 3p doesn’t really make sense to pursue and your claim ~always comes from non-mafia so consider that dropped for the time being

[Vulgard]

I have no idea

[Achromatic]

see? convinced. Achro works his magic*

…

• vul just probably thought about it for 2 seconds and did not, in fact, need my help.

[Zone_Q11]

…welp, okay. I guess I’ll go dig Marl’s ISO for the time being.

[Leafia]

Okay. I will. Wazza is a good place to start honestly.

/vote Wazza @Host_Account_2

Her reads feel faked and I think she’s the most likely hit. Zone is a bit of a wildcard, but I’d say he could be a hit too, although it’s possible he’s just a villager.

Hippo I trust a lot more after last night, so I don’t think we should ever flip him unless he becomes obvious scum or something.

Vulgard, I hate his 180 on me to be honest and I just can’t figure it out.

Wind I think is a villager. I like to think that I’m good at reading her and she just has that v!Wind energy about her.

[Vulgard]

If Leafia flips town, Hippo looks better (it removes one reason I can think of for wolf!him to want the vig to punt eevee instead of shooting a town and dying like Zorvo did) and PlagueSimp looks worse (the way they came to their conclusion of Wazza looks TMI-ish in that case because it works from the prerequisite assumption that Leafia is a villager)

I am less confident about the latter than the former

[Vulgard]

Wazza is someone I’m inherently biased against because we clash a lot in games but I’ll try to read her ISO later again and see how she fits into this

For now I kinda overcorrected and put her in the lime zone but she maybe doesn’t belong there

Will figure out later

[Leafia]

What happened to clearing me for having my vote on Marl when he outed?

[Zone_Q11]

@Marluxion

wind / leafia / wazza 3/3?
least confident to most

@Achromatic

Feels like an awful amount of thread space for two wolves to dedicate early day 1 to their wolf partner unless they think leafia is hopeless as wolf.

@Marluxion

if leafia is w that is what they are thinking yes

they are a player you hope to never rand wolf with

It’s probably not the wisest idea to ask someone within his own false POE, but:

@WindwardAway, does this sound like Marl mocking w!Leafia because they randed w together?

[Vulgard]

The bussing arguments all over the place have convinced me that there was probably some degree of bussing and distancing going on with Marl and specifically the part about you/Windy having one wolf is something I found enough of a concern that I’d rather just punt you and be done with it at the moment

I honestly think you/Windy could be 2/2 but that’s another thing

@Leafia

Vulgard, I hate his 180 on me to be honest and I just can’t figure it out.

@Leafia

What happened to clearing me for having my vote on Marl when he outed?

I’m also really confused by how you’re treating me because it feels like you’re genuinely shocked I don’t townread you without inherently suspecting that I might be an opportunistic wolf

@Leafia

Wind I think is a villager. I like to think that I’m good at reading her and she just has that v!Wind energy about her.

And when I think you two have the potential to be W/W (yes I do think Marl’s post could’ve been 2/3 or even 3/3) you saying this doesn’t really inspire much confidence sorry

I’m still listening though

[Zone_Q11]

@Marluxion

Hi Windy!

This is arguably one of the stupidest arguments possible, but I feel like Marl wouldn’t greet his scumbuddy like this, and then later decide to put her within his own POE.

[Vulgard]

I’ll be around again tomorrow but this is what I have at the moment
Zone, please play the game normally - like you’re doing right now, I think you’re town
glgl I guess but you obviously shouldn’t hammer anyone

/unvote @Host_Account_2

Brad try not to yell at me for daring to suspect you because I know you’ve been keen on this in the past
Explaining your process on Leafia and Marl would help
As well as providing your current thoughts on Leafia

[WindwardAway]

@Marluxion

real talk i dont really wanna yeet leafia today anyway
i think she is >rand to be w but i want to see her response to what i said

i think wazza is more likely a hit anyway

Meh, maybe Marl’s handling of Leafia is not actually that bad of a look for her

This plus a couple earlier posts like “Leafia never says this as town”, despite being true, could just be an easy way to push her as a misyeet

Prioritizing Wazza over a Leafia yeet is ironically a better look for her specifically because Marl would want w!Leafia out before Wazza as any alignment, I’m pretty sure, unless they came up with some master plan and he agreed not to bus her right away

@Marluxion

where the heck is alice

Don’t think this indicates anything either way for Alice

@Marluxion

no i meant the “I’m gonna regret defending leafia” bit

if she had a reason for it and explained that reason she wouldn’t regret it later, she would just explain

idk
might be less black and white than i first thought but still feels off
like if you have a plan wrt someone like she implies in the second post i dont think you’d be as concerned with the repercussions of it, especially if you come clean with them later

Man he really drove the hedge on my slot hard

@Marluxion

/vote WindwardAway @Buddhist_Monkey

@Marluxion

the more i go through windy’s posts the more certain i am she’s just wolf here i think

@Marluxion

almost all of her pushes and takes are prompted by someone else

Like I didn’t even see this until going through his iso now
Hedge hedge hedge ah yes he needs somewhere else to vote, and he needs to vote someone who is reading him correctly and has a history of reading him correctly, before I can get more people to jump on him

@Marluxion

@Leafia

I’m fine with either Wazza or Vulgard flipping at this point.

@Leafia

It isn’t for 0 reason Hippo. I’m just really good at reading Marl and I explained my reason for townreading him and no I don’t just give wolfbuddies townreads for no reason. As for my read on Marl, after the Achro thing as nd stuff, he has slipped down to null for me, possibly the slightest of wolfleans. Something seems off about him.

As for Vulgard, he has admittedly improved a bit in my eyes with his latest posts, so I’m starting to think Wazza is more likely to be a hit here.

/vote Wazza @Buddhist_Monkey

thought the first post was just her trying to pull away from everyone saying she was chainsaw defending wazza, but i’ll admit i completely missed this second post here until just now

Eh, what do you guys think of this one?

@Marluxion

eh
i thought she was towny earlier with her reasoning for leafia but the way she’s treated me in particular is not what i’m used to from her

h e d g e
(this is about me, in response to Hippo)

@Marluxion

leafia wazza windy kiiruma

Here, mine this for spew
imo if this list contains any wolves, it’s exactly Leafia and no others
otherwise idk it might actually not contain any wolves cause I don’t think his Wazza push was on a buddy and I also think the way he suddenly retracted a townread on Kii is not what he does to a buddy

I’m still looking for spew on Brad but I haven’t seen any yet

[Atlas]

@Zone_Q11

In other words, we cannot confirm if a hypothetical SK has targeted Zorvo/min or not

yes for both
but for seth its very unlikely due to guilt
and the fact hes seth

[Leafia]

@Vulgard

@Leafia

Vulgard, I hate his 180 on me to be honest and I just can’t figure it out.

@Leafia

What happened to clearing me for having my vote on Marl when he outed?

I’m also really confused by how you’re treating me because it feels like you’re genuinely shocked I don’t townread you without inherently suspecting that I might be an opportunistic wolf

I mean, it’s possible that you’re an opportunistic wolf although the possibility didn’t occur to me until you mentioned it just now. Probably due to how much I believe that Wazza is a wolf currently and how certain I am that you and Wazza aren’t w/w. You seemed villagery enough towards the end of D1 after all and you’ve improved quite a bit in my eyes from earlier in the day.

[Atlas]

yeah i just saw your other post zone
you got it