Arete have you re-evaled anything?
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So you subconciously think itâs scummy, since you brought it up.
However, you assume this vote is NAI after analyzing it?
Okay, quick reality check then:
What could scum achieve with this vote (and push in general)? Does it seem thatâs the case?
What could town achieve with this vote (and push in general)? Does it seem thatâs the case?
First of all - is not wanting to be shot a scummy thing? Letâs skip it and say no, becouse that part is rather obvious.
So what makes you think it was scum over town vig interaction and why?
The other and more base thing for reality check is:
Do you think Kiiruma would be able to notice vig claim? How likely it is in compare of how often scum figures out roles day 1?
And last thing - " Also pocketing someone is scummy, bc its a thign scum do" â Iâm not accepting this explanation. Adjust it to the current situation and worldview.
Like for example - faking a role is scummy, bc its a thing scum do - however I managed to destroy whole scumteams by scratch due to engineering correct role fakes. Does it mean I was scum? No.
In reality scum is more self aware than town, which means they are LESS prone to making stupid things. Most of stupid plays come from town to begin with. Especially in 2-man team.
So donât ever use generalizations like that. Especially when talking to me.
Reads are meant to be dependant on situation, not âScum is scummy becouse they did X, and scum always does Xâ.
chloe v
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I mean Chloe has and continues to be my top read. Agreed
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No.
No
with all due respect
bruh
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yes
yesterday I had Dumeevee as a confident townread, today Iâve been considering the possibility that I was wrong on them/that I was clearing them faster than I should be clearing any hydra containing eevee, and underestimating Dum just because heâs new
yesterday I was sort of writing off Kiiâs slot as âidk probably town,â with two of my previous-scumreads being flipped town I considered the question of whether I was letting him off too easily and not really fully evaluating him, and looked back at his posts, and concluded that he genuinely believes his reads regardless of alignment, and that strategically he probably isnât a wolf with Leafiaslot
Iâve been ping-ponging back and forth on your slot all game, by EoD yesterday I was feeling more okay with your slot than I had been, but now I am doubting your slot again, because you were trying to set us up to be misvigged after Wind flipped town, and your slotâs posting near SoD today was Not Great, and also, youâve just been incredibly wrong despite being two of the best villagers on the site, like, you have pushed literally every flipped villager and came into today also shading us â obviously villagers can be wrong, we were wrong on Wind and Litten, but youâve been wrong on literally every flipped villager and also us, and â âyou had wrong reads so you are wolfâ is an oversimplification but when I try to imagine what Postgame Arete would tell me, if they could reach through time and roast my reads, they mostly say âwhy the fuck would you ever clear Chloe for vaguely sounding townie, she has been wrong about literally everythingâ
yesterday I was initially townleaning Leafia, then she did a bunch of things that I found more suspicious and I dropped her down. the flips havenât super made me reconsider that one although I kind of got the vibe at EoD that she wasnât really that invested in it until Litten started to scumread her
hey arete
you had wrong reads so you are wolf
yeah I mean frankly if my slot had been as wrong as your slot has been this game that would more or less be a wolfclaim
and I donât think weâre significantly better than you guys are
so ⌠yes that is affecting my read
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iâve been wrong on everything multiple times in the past but iâm still the villageriest villager to ever village
and iâll also be right today
polidab
hopefully
Do you mean hadnât or
âŚno? Iâm not totally sure what you think that post is ⌠saying
Chloe, why did you never consider any of the points orange brought up for why TLslot was town?
(or if you did actually consider them where is that reflected in your posting)
Thought you meant hadnât because you guys have been as wrong as we have
So you were saying basically:
âSince weâve been as wrong as you guys you might not be wolvesâ
Am I reading this wrong?
I did and disagreed because I donât think Playing Suboptimally is outside of Rubyâs range
I donât think I ever actively scumread Melody, I just never townread them and didnât see compelling reason to
Also if weâre playing the reputation game I have thought âwell weâve been as incorrect as them so maybe that doesnât make them a wolfâ but I donât⌠fully think thatâs comparable since I legit didnât give a damn about the game yesterday and barely efforted and you were putting in a lot of effort and still came out wrong
yes, you are
I am saying âyou have been pushing at least four villager slots (Engineer, Wind, TL, us) without really reconsidering even when players you claim to respect (e.g. orange) bring up points in their favorâ
(you are now also pushing LBW who hasnât flipped but I started thinking this before you started pushing them)
âif an orangerete hydra were pushing four consecutive villagers while refusing to listen to literally any points in their favor coming from players they respect, they would almost certainly be a wolfâ
âkat and Chloe are just as good as usâ
âwhich points to them being a wolfâ
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