Hydra Popcorn - Cat Flavor: Day 5 (6/11) - Mafia Win

[2Wolves1Hydra]

FUCK.
Damn you Aelin or Arctic.
I think probably Arctic

[GoldAndCrystal]

my brain says kill SoS my gut says kill kiiruma

my ego says they are both mafia

[2Wolves1Hydra]

You should never trust your gut

[GoldAndCrystal]

thats weird coming from you since you either make up all your reads or have gutreads which you disguise with made up reasoning

[franks29thbirthday]

@Cheese90

List of every sketchy thing i found from G/C
Keep in mind it is 12:19am here and i may end up heavily resiving this once i wake up tomorrow, mostly for readability

The “don’t shoot me” part

Collection of short posts

@GoldAndCrystal

I’m town, I can afford to be as antagonistic as I want :3

@GoldAndCrystal

-C

@GoldAndCrystal

I was vibing in scumch- I mean, uh, youtube lofi hiphop beats live chat

@GoldAndCrystal

I’m not above pocketing you
I think

@GoldAndCrystal

jake is probably a villager, hes going to shoot me or my townread and then we’re in lylo

@GoldAndCrystal

yeah so i want the gun then if im wrong i’ll misfire and the game ends

Every post in this collection either approaches them being town as something that is obvious (including the posts that offhandedly mention that they will get the gun) or tries to be sarcastic about being scum to achieve a similar effect. Both of these indicate a strong desire to not be killed.

@GoldAndCrystal

i know this was a joke, and you probably are going to put 0 weight into what i’m about to say, but i feel like i… pretty obviously wouldn’t give you guys the gun? both heads of your hydra love to suspect me immediately like, every game, and then later i will end up pocketing you regardless of my alignment. giving you guys the gun first is… exactly what i don’t want to do

Imho the smoking gun for this section of my argument. Even though they acknowledge the offhanded comment of “scum” from bingus as a joke, they take a lot of words to justify why they wouldnt be giving the gun. Clearly indicates jumpiness.

The “shoot someone else” part

On SoS

@GoldAndCrystal

why did you feel the need to justify that post when it wasn’t even directed to you

@GoldAndCrystal

this entire post is so fake it could be a kardashian

@GoldAndCrystal

While Arctic may be a COWARD, I am not and fully encourage shooting SoS 10 hours into the day
You can trust me because I haven’t made you shoot a town yet, which means I have a 0% chance of leading you wrong

This one I’d like to classify as a bus. Their initial questioning is mostly in the form of continuous questions, like the one in the first one. Then based on supposed "paranoia"they call for the killing. Everything around this interaction feels fake.

On lol/dota:

@GoldAndCrystal

pretty sure the lol/dota slot is just obvious mafia atp

look at dota’s day 1 in higurashi
look at lol’s day 1 in railgun

Bad read, coming from a very limited data set. What if the two slots changed their play due to non-game influences? This read goes on into their “ultimatum” post as their top acumread, which… weh.

TL;DR: G+C actin pretty scummy

Off to sleep bye yall

@Cheese90

@GoldAndCrystal

serious question have you actually read our full iso

yes*
usual disclaimer that it was at 1am and i can’t 100% guarantee that it’s good
but seeing as how current me agrees with the 1am me don’t think it’s that bad

@GoldAndCrystal

im reasonably confident both of us are out of wolfrange and mine (arctic’s) investment in the game is way past anything i would commit as mafia

no*
firstly im definitely not someone who looks into “wolfranges”
secondly activity and investment is not really AI

@GoldAndCrystal

if you’re a villager, we have now defended both of the villagers who were the consensus shot on their respective days and successfully advocated for the second shot to be moved to a wolf

this is honestly wolfy
my wolftell is that my reads are very accurate, and id defend V a lot
id think people would do that more in a popcorn game

@GoldAndCrystal

i think seth also spewed our slot town but that’s a different story

I haven’t read seth so idk there

tracks like a make the read then make the reasoning post
not sure who posted this but if it was cheese it’d make sense

‘cheese auto goes against leaders as village’ is a read that I know exists and is relatively accurate

[SeaOfStars]

kiiru what happened to you wolfreading geyde/eevee

what happened to you wolfreading me/trochi

~nova

[franks29thbirthday]

@Cheese90
who made these two posts

[GoldAndCrystal]

@franks29thbirthday

tracks like a make the read then make the reasoning post

its especially obvious this is what he did since before he made this post he just assumed we were one of the people asking to be shot (which at the time we weren’t) and were mafia because of it

im guessing from this he then iso’d us with the assumption we were scum in mind

classic (villager?) cheese

-g

[SeaOfStars]

kiiru going from wolfreading geyde/eevee and having brad/illwei at null to wanting to shoot brad/illwei when geyde/eevee said so pings as wolfy to me

~nova

[franks29thbirthday]

I’m just too powerful

[GoldAndCrystal]

@SeaOfStars

what happened to you wolfreading me/trochi

he is letting you buss him be nice

[franks29thbirthday]

how confident do you feel in a cheese meta read based clear

[SeaOfStars]

i’ve decided i’m going to stop being confident on my reads as a rule

~nova

[franks29thbirthday]

Because I’m going to be honest
how people read lhf in a game like this is a bit puzzling unless you can really make a through line for the play

[franks29thbirthday]

the opinion of person with gun is all that theoretically matters

[2Wolves1Hydra]

I’m literally 2 for 2 atm, fight me

[GoldAndCrystal]

it literally ticks all the boxes of what i expect villager cheese to do
being

1. anti-consensus read on a mostly v-read top-posting slot
2. scumread decided before finding the reasoning
3. visible confbias due to omission of anything villagery from our slot
4. an incorrect read

the caveat is… it is not particularly hard to fake a village meta like this. but for now i’ll take this at face value

[SeaOfStars]

your condescension is unrivaled

~nova

[GoldAndCrystal]

5. your mom

[franks29thbirthday]

I want cheese90 to do more before I can lock the slot v
That sequence is definitely v range for cheese but I’m not sure how far his w range goes