Hydra Popcorn - Cat Flavor: Day 5 (6/11) - Mafia Win

[SonicAndKnuckles]

actually eh maybe not sea i would still look for deepwolf

[GoldAndCrystal]

i’m not going to bother quoting and/or explaining why wind is spewed it’s just obvious if you look at the first 60 posts of the iso as well as wind’s push on the slot, it’s clear she actually cares about it unlike her half-assed eevee push in plants when she bussed

@Zwelious

I may need to re-evaluate then lol.
To be honest though I decided that your weird post is more up to just bad logic than actual maliciously trying to save a scumbuddy of yours. It’s a bit too obvious of a white knighting for Cheese to be a real thing I expect from Mafia to be honest.

ok actually this backtrack post actually makes it insanely obvious so i quoted it for that reason

@Zwelious

Alright read through them.
I like Cheese posts honestly. Good reads and not really looking wolfy. I don’t see why people dislike them.
Kiiruma is a bit more meh. All they’ve really done looking at it is try and discuss why the wolves gave you the gun, but they left half way through that discussion so there isn’t much to do on. Gut from experience with how I used to play Mafia do like to talk about mechanics more than Town though so this is probably just Mafia trying to lie low and not make any big waves.

the cheese part reads like a classic unwarranted townread on an LHF villager - the reasons are unelaborated, there is the good old textbook comment “i don’t know why people dislike them???” which wolves love to use whenever they defend LHF. seth took a similar approach this game with his treatment of jake so i think it’s likely he’s doing it here as well. especially given that he made no attempt to save cheese the entire phase, despite having the suitable progression on my slot to justify asking the^3 to shoot me (the other main slot the^3 was considering shooting)- which he would have done if cheese was his partner
the kiiruma part reads like how wolves scumread a partner - by using a measure of “textbook wolfiness”, in this example the discussion of mechanics. it’s also interesting to note that up until this point pretty much everyone else townread kiiruma for their discussion of the shot, and i do wonder if seth would be happy to ride on that momentum to townread a partner instead? meh
also notice how he completely forgets about this read later and decides to push me and HH instead

@Zwelious

#103 is the exact kind of post I make when I want to try and quick corner a Mafia. Even dismissing personal bias towards me liking their style this just comes across as someone trying to solve in any way they can and not afraid if they get scum read for it. Same in #130.

They made a read in #177 and defended it in #225 and #226

#306 feels like a genuine reaction and show they are unsure about the slot in #319. This doesn’t initially come across to me as Mafia trying to keep their options open. I’ve seen what that looks like and this just ain’t it.

Honestly I don’t see why people are scumreading this slot.
It just comes across as genuine and trying to solve the game.

this is an elaboration upon the cheese townread. it’s less reachey but once again the final comment makes me think it was just made on a villager

@Zwelious

OK, so like it’s like this. Town try to solve the game. Wolves try to misdirect.
It’s not a foolproof method of town and scum reading sure.
But scumreading people for trying to solve is stupid.
If all the slot does is try to solve the game, it’s pretty likely to be Town.

@Zwelious

More often than not I find they try to slank and lay low.
Sure a good wolf knows how to fake solve, but that only gets them so far, they will likely lose in the late game from boxing themselves in readwise.
The point is. I see no reason to scum read Cheese right now. The slot has only tried to solve.

“this slot is town for solving”
yeah.

that’s like the first third of this iso
the cheese spew is stronger than i thought

-g

[GoldAndCrystal]

i really dont think frank and SoS are together cuz it really looked like SoS was trying to shade frank while geyde was afk

[SonicAndKnuckles]

whats the difference between sussing a townie and sussing a buddy wouldnt you use textbook stuff for both circumstances?

[SonicAndKnuckles]

so you think its 2wolves instead of frank?

[SonicAndKnuckles]

i mean yeah i guess thats possible i never checked anything between the other folks though

[GoldAndCrystal]

the way he’s just like “from my experience wolves do this” is just different to how he’s scumread everyone else (like me and HH)
it’s just offhanded and delicate

[GoldAndCrystal]

like he was going in for the kill on me and HH

[SonicAndKnuckles]

man really aimed for the stars

[SonicAndKnuckles]

i mean ok then whose interactions with him are the least shitty

[GoldAndCrystal]

probably

[GoldAndCrystal]

well my takeaways so far are that HH is obviously spewed villager and so am i, cheese is most likely too so i won’t consider shooting them for at least a few more phases

when i finish i’ll see if i can find who looks worse but i genuinely think he probably didn’t interact with his partners this game

[SonicAndKnuckles]

isnt 4 villagers all we need to win the game pretty securely

[GoldAndCrystal]

thats if everyone agrees on the 4 villagers

no one agrees on anyone except like HH maybe? idk

[SonicAndKnuckles]

i agree on you me hh cheese

[SonicAndKnuckles]

i agree on thethethe being town

[SonicAndKnuckles]

we get 2 mishots and theres 6 towns so seems good

[GoldAndCrystal]

im still a little hesitant on your slot but yeah you would probably be my 4th

[SonicAndKnuckles]

ohhh theres thethethe lmaooo i forgot about them
even better

[SonicAndKnuckles]

what are you hesitant about lets clear everything up right here right now