Legacy Forum of Lies 2 - The Psychopathic King, Possessor, and Alchemist win

That would be correct, but unlikely for starting Unseen to be The Sage. Samarie could be starting Cult though.

Eh…Fair enough

Unlikely doesn’t mean impossible but I will agree that starting cult is looking more likely.

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You mentioned you had other reasons to suspect me? What were those reasons?

other statements that pinged me as weird but only if I looked at you in a negative light kind of way. You can say that about anyone though and I think I’d be right in saying it’s likely unreasonable

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im kinda at the point where, “If im immune evil, what can I possibly be”, as like this big gotcha, just destroyed your whole arguement, should die

I still dont think they are outted
and the whole, “Evils dont want her dead”, is a bs argument that a lot of the time leads to bad flips, because one, who are these evils? If Samarie is truly outted, I think wolves would just bus here, or cult I guess, its a bit finiky if u start thinking about two evil factions, kinda makes gamestate reads very hard

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my question is, how can it all be waived away?
also I think evils will most of the time, take w/e push they can get away with, but like same question, but reverse, who are these evils that want them dead?

as more time goes on I get more solidifed in my scumread of Kalev (this has nothing to do with his new posts and everything to do with confbias)

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The mechanics are confusing enough in a game like this that people might think they have something when they don’t. But I still want to flip samarie anyway just to clear the air

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i mean sure, but usually when someone says something can be hand waived, they have evidence for that, not just a generic statement, that dismantles the arguement, as if one is actually has the evidence to prove it, when they dont

like I can say, “I dont understand why mechanics have led to people believing they are outted”, but im certainly not going to say, “The mechanics dont actually make them wolfy”, especially when I dont understand the mechanics, and here you clearly stated also that they are confusing

I think Evils want them dead, is just as bad as saying evils dont want them dead, when u can’t define who these people are

Honestly I still think Karin should die because they reason for voting Samarie, is abysmal, not in like a haha trolly way, but actually god awful, in a wolfy way

whats ur current read on Karin?

I agree with the line of thinking they have though in that the ability usage seems tame and untrackable compared to anything else that was possible to choose. It would be suspicious on it’s own but with other things too a vote is reasonable from Karin.

Null leaning townread, depending on the allignment of samarie they’re chasing after this kill without really thinking about much else other than their vote reason imho. If samarie is town I don’t like that, if they’re scum then…I guess it wouldn’t really change much for Karin. Bussing would be a thing here after all and we are assuming that Samarie is very caught if they are a wolf.

i dont hate that line of thought since ya, I meant their original read their

this post, still pings the hell out of me

What exactly bothers you about this because on the surface here it looks fine to me. 'Cept maybe the part where they confidently declare they are exactly CL/MM. Too specific for my tastes and an evil version of the CW wouldn’t be claiming exactly what they did anyway because uh…they’d possibly be choosing Unseen/Cult abilities, and claiming that is an insta-out.

the whole “excited” part of their arguement, just doesnt feel real to me

i think the one thing coming out of that that i think is townie, is their CC

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Maybe a bit of an overexplanation instead of just CC’ing but I don’t think it’s too far out of left field overall

The Counter Claim depends on the level of knowledge Karin has about the game.

For someone who did not know it would grant more credibility, but it is easily faked for someone who does know the game.