Maybot's Combinatorics Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WIN

[RedPandas]

@Magnus

Do you think I’m untrustworthy?

We’re playing Mafia.

[Magnus]

There’s a high likelihood you’re voting Pandora alongside an evil player, just so you’re logistically aware.

[Magnus]

I’m voting alongside an evil too, although not necessarily all at the same time which is cool. Huh.

[Magnus]

I’m listening to music between my thread check-ins to make sure I don’t fall asleep and miss EOD.

[Badeline]

@spookycat27

this is probably the most confbiased thing I could say ever, but i really do feel w/w in here

w/w with who? I’m assuming anon since thats who your previous post was about but I talk about 3 different people in that post you quoted. I’d also appreciate if you look into why I read each player each way instead of skimming for conclusions.

@Ash

Goose/Chomps/Pandora?

I haven’t thought about the theory behind this at all but this just seems like a terrible combo to have after d1. We gain no new info about anyone, at best we confirm that fusion is a wolf with a 0/3 and confirm pandora which is great admittedly and vice versa with a 2/3, but the chance of hitting a 1/3 (which is what this probably is, bc i’m very certain ash and chomps are paired) gives us 0 new info.

@pandora

VOTE: badeline
VOTE: ash
VOTE: quail

I don’t understand this vote.

@Anonygoose

both badelines and chomps SoD wall posts were a bit scum indicative

Why? Was it the posts themselves or the fact we wrote wallposts overnight?

@Anonygoose

Ash/pandora/badeline is 2 imo

I think this would be 1/3 with ash the wolf, I don’t really see why people are scumreading pandora anymore.

I genuinely don’t get what people see in Ash. They seem like the most obvious scum to me and no one seems to agree. Maybe I’m just looking at mafia’s posts defending him?

@Magnus

Badeline and Goose both tried to disregard it

This is factually untrue. I accepted the townslip (for d1). I did not disregard it.

Why do so many of Magnus’s posts feature things that are false about the gamestate?

Thread as a whole feels very biased against myself and pandora. People seem to be finding any reason to scumread us 2, and when they do mention scumreads on us the reasons behind them are weak at best and nonexistent at worse.

@Magnus

anyone has a strong compelling reason to trust any of these players

Explain why there is a reason not to trust me. You haven’t actually cased me at all, or prisma, or lee. This is the most blatant push of agenda I’ve ever seen.

@Anonygoose

I havent hidden anything, i dont like this shade

Magnus has been shading me all day, I’m glad you get to know what it’s like.

@RedPandas

Not really vibing with how Prisma is seemingly being treated as effectively confscum while having posted once this entire day.

Same. Honestly I think this is a 0/3, which as we’ve discussed through pandora’s game theory post is the worst combo to hit here. This wagon came only after that post, meaning wolves probably read it and then came up with a gameplan to get a 0/3 after it.

Not that I’ll be complaining to be confirmed town.

I currently think the team is ash/magnus/chomps. Understanding that it’s unoptimal to put someone from d1 wagons into d2, I’ll be leaving chomps out of my vote.

VOTE: Ash
VOTE: Magnus
VOTE: Redpandas

I’m fairly certain this will be 2/3. If so, I think we can do ash/magnus/chomps tomorrow for the win.

[Maybot]

Ash (2): Anonygoose, Badeline
pandora (3): Anonygoose, FusionMoon314, RedPandas
Prisma101 (5): Anonygoose, Magnus, Chomps, pandora, spookycat27
Chomps (1): FusionMoon314
LittleLee (6): FusionMoon314, Magnus, Chomps, pandora, spookycat27, RedPandas
Badeline (5): Magnus, Chomps, pandora, spookycat27, RedPandas
Magnus (1): Badeline
RedPandas (1): Badeline

Not Voting (4): Quail, LittleLee, Ash, Prisma101

[pandora]

@Badeline

@pandora

VOTE: badeline

VOTE: ash
VOTE: quail

I don’t understand this vote.

this vote was nothing

[Badeline]

Ash constantly makes confusing and unclear votes and seems to ignore the gamestate and joke around far more in their ISO than anybody else. It reads as incredibly awkward and like a mafia trying to float by (which is something that he is currently doing.)

@Ash

I’m surprised we got a 1/3, but I townread Goose and Chomps, so Fusion’s probably just mafia here.
I’m still of the opinion that Badeline is scummy, I still want a lot more from Prisma and Quail, and I still think we should go for a 2/3 or 3/3 rather than going for 0/3s.

@Ash

Probably Goose/Chomps/Pandora? Inclined to trust Magnus here given their status as town leader, but I imagine that’s less actual townreading and more me just finding that the convenient thing to do.

@Ash

Fusion.
I have mentioned this somewhere.

These are the only game relevant posts today that give actual reads on a player or comments on the gamestate. One of them is restating what another post said. There is no progression, there is no thought process, there are a couple posts and thats it.

Magnus has played this game by trying their best to direct the wagons and shade every player they think should be put in the wagons. They’ve also stated multiple incorrect things about the game state in an attempt to shade, not even checking if they are true. Here’s a few examples.

@Badeline

@Magnus

Badeline and Goose both tried to disregard it

This is factually untrue. I accepted the townslip (for d1). I did not disregard it.

@Badeline

@Magnus

You complained that since Chomps scumread Fusion, they shouldn’t believe in w!Anonygoose or that Ash could be spewed town as a result.

That’s not what I said. Chomps claimed that if anon was mafia they would have spewed Ash town.

@Magnus

I didn’t direct them, exactly. I was following along the wake of somebody else’s path.

(They were the first voter on one wagon and the second vote on another.)

@Magnus

Badeline’s only notable interaction today was to criticise Chomps’ spew read on Ash at the beginning of the day, though.

This isn’t true and completely ignores the opening wallpost I made today (3rd example of magnus shading me heavily TODAY)

@Magnus

Because I didn’t direct the 1/3 wagons yesterday

Next two quoted posts show context.

@Magnus

VOTE: Chomps.
VOTE: Anonygoose.
VOTE: FusionMoon314.

Alrighty then.

(this post is from d1 and made a minute after anon voted)

@Magnus

@Anonygoose

Think RedPandas been townier than Fusion

Exactly why you shouldn’t choose Panda, by the way.

Also from d1, shows them directing votes.

@Magnus

I think Badeline is more likely to be evil than Ash, if I have to rank them. It seems plausible that the former started pushing the latter because of his wagon density. If anyone could be described as potent today, it would be her.

Another example of magnus shading my slot, this time from d1!

@Magnus

I don’t really know what the purpose behind these statements were. Badeline then continued revising menial questions to get other players to justify their thoughts, and also indirectly made certain semi-appealing comments like:

“revising menial questions” “semi-appealing comments”. Why am I the only person pushing this?

@Magnus

in under ten minutes so the amount of thought going into it likely wasn’t very high.

Undermines my read of Ash by saying I didn’t think about it much because the post only took me 10 minutes to write.

@Magnus

Badeline only mentioned Red in any detail.

If you read the post I talk about Ash more than i talk about redpandas

Anyway, this is all just them misrepresenting the gamestate and shading. Lets talk about their agenda pushing!

@Magnus

Jailing Badeline and Ash together is a mistake, by the way. We can’t have both.

@Magnus

VOTE: Ash.
VOTE: Badeline.
VOTE: Anonygoose.

These are posts #418 and posts #431. Guess they changed their mind pretty fast.

@Magnus

So you’re polarised and villagery, good enough for me.

(this entire post is a word salad that I don’t think anyone is going to bother to check, but its been the basis of magnus’s townread on ash that they’ve kept and pushed this entire game)

@Magnus

The Ash wagon composition is vaguely terrible but nobody should really care about that.

@Magnus

Ash had a nightmarish opener and an otherwise casual cadence which didn’t feel the need to “prove” its townliness, particularly with how he listed reads without substance going against the mill. I’m still waiting for an explanation on the Pandora read because that one caught my eye, but it’s probably fine.
I wouldn’t jail Ash, personally, but that’s just me.

These both come before their long post analyzing ash’s past games.

@Magnus

I think Ash is town, the brevity in his explanation doesn’t come from an evil who would care to broadly justify themselves.

@Magnus

It’s clear Badeline suspects Ash, but she’s not really engaging with the logic so much as trying to mitigate it.

This is both shading and pushing agenda. I believe thats 7 counts of blatant shading against me so far? Sorry this post is a lot more magnus focused than it is ash focused, I finally read through magnus’s ISO and it made me realize how egregiously they’ve been playing.

@Magnus

All things considered, I think Badeline’s alignment is the most important one to figure out currently.

Continuing to try and push me into a wagon

@Magnus

e latter initially townread Ash until shifting focus when his reads weren’t well explained, then committed to firmly challenging the D1 leading wagon as if it was an obstacle

(more shading my push of Ash while also making Ash look better in the same post)

@Magnus

VOTE: Badeline.
VOTE: Prisma.
VOTE: Quail.

Starts

@Magnus

I’m dubious that you aren’t on a similar page, considering you’ve read the pertinent arguments by now and yet haven’t particularly engaged in the topics…

Continues to push the agenda of me being scum by shading anon for not agreeing and also saying there are pertinent arguments against my slot when no big cases or anything have really been made.

@Magnus

In the w!Anonygoose world, you’re town, Spooktunes is town, Ash and Pandora are town, Chomps and Fusion are town, Badeline could be town but maybe not.

Still finds a way to scumread me

@Magnus

VOTE: Badeline.
VOTE: Prisma.
VOTE: LittleLee.

Starts the wagon on me, prisma, and littlelee.

@Magnus

All of you are presumably offline, but could you all vote along the lines of Lee / Prisma / Badeline? If anyone has a strong compelling reason to trust any of these players which hasn’t been previously stated, please bring it up. Aiming for 2/3 to clear half the game in one foul stroke.

Literally pings half the playerlist to go vote us 3. Is apparently not directing wagons according to own testimony.

@Magnus

You have routinely comprehended poor alignment conduct from Badeline’s slot

This isn’t true, Magnus has. Except Magnus also hasn’t explained the poor alignment conduct coming from my slot well without shading me. This is again Magnus shading anyone who doesn’t scumread me.

@Magnus

I find it amusing that Ash and Badeline are perfectly balanced on the cusp of their postcounts, huh.

Interesting thing to point out when one of us has probably 3x the content of the other.

Anyway, I’m done quoting Magnus’s posts. I think it’s pretty clear magnus has been directing wagons and spreading agenda both d1 and d2, shading my slot and anyone who doesn’t oppose my slot heavily, and finding almost any way possible to make me scum and ash town. Ash has done nothing of note today and hasn’t progressed on any reads or had any changes in their mind. With everything that been happening today, especially previous lowposters coming out and giving tons of content, you’d think there would be some progression. And yet, there isn’t. I’ve already expressed why I read chomps the way I do and with the 1/3 between chomps/anon/fusion, I think it’s still most likely chomps is the scum in those 3.

Anyone have any objections?

[Badeline]

What do you mean by nothing?

[Anonygoose]

@Badeline

@Anonygoose

both badelines and chomps SoD wall posts were a bit scum indicative

Why? Was it the posts themselves or the fact we wrote wallposts overnight?

just seems a bit much and usually comes from scum. but also a playstyle thing tbf so don’t care that much

[Anonygoose]

@Badeline

VOTE: Ash
VOTE: Magnus
VOTE: Redpandas

why do you think RedPandas is mafia this is a bad trio to go together. Whare are you aiming for?

[Anonygoose]

ive cancelled a date tonight specifically to spend next few hours combing this thread so if no one is here i will be very upset

[Anonygoose]

ok that is not the reason, the reason is i am a bit hungover but still i expect the best from you guys

[Anonygoose]

This game is actually not hard it is literally just Ash (been lolcatting today with puzzles) / Fusion (posted like 4 times today compared to d1 when they were normal) / and then a low-poster in Pandora/Prism/Quail/Lee.

This is the team

[Anonygoose]

Redpandas deffo town, also think spooky has been playing v well if they are mafia.

Badeline is not mafia with ash. Chomps is not mafia with fusion, obviously.

Magnus can be mafia im totally wrong, and think they’ve been a bit agenday, but i cba to push them and they’ve had some good reads. If our d1 was a 0/3 i’d be more likely to push magnus today.

That leaves Lee / Quail / Pandora / Prism to have 1 mafia in.

It breaks my heart but pandora’s random tierlist of 0/3 1/3 etc was actually good and I can no longer stand on my d1 snipe. So I think my order of mafia is:

Prism > quail > pandora > lee

VOTE: Prism
VOTE: Quail
VOTE: Pandora

has probably 1. We confirm this (and huge if 0 or 2) then tomorrow we vote ash/fusion and whoever loses their dome.

[Anonygoose]

@Badeline

This isn’t true and completely ignores the opening wallpost I made today (3rd example of magnus shading me heavily TODAY)

yeah no Magnus did keep saying stuff that wasn’t true

[Anonygoose]

@Quail I see you

You are firmly in POE now but be honest you wouldn’t pretend to be a bird and then actually be a wolf would you?

Who do you think is mafia in chomps/redpanda/Anonygoose?

[Chomps]

bird fight! bird fight!

[Quail]

My read is Chomps. I Don’t think it’s pandas and I hope my bird bro isn’t a wolf in goose clothing.

[Anonygoose]

Wait i meant fusion not redpandas sorry