i guess for the sake of being readable i kinda tinfoiled drekkar being a wolf just cause the way the played saying they are gonna be hero could have been an excuse to get off a shot on a “clear” villager as a wolf. but overall i think drekkar is a villager
juno playstyle is >rand villa in a vacuum so dont really care to go there today but i kinda doubt they are gonna be helpful to the village. it’s pretty rare for wolves to play like they are doing tho
dubu would play like this as both alignments but i think he is an okay lunch given gamestate
only 2 isos i have “read” are luna/juliette cause i was thinking they could be misclear at different points of the day
for the rest i have only be abe to skim from phone and rn is the first time i am able to post from pc so my reads are mostly off what i remember/etc… but here is where i am at:
v
kai
atlas
dekkar
prob v
luna
era
lean v but prob 1 wolf in here
estelle
juliette
juno
rune
luna is probably a villager but i have no idea why they are voting me (funnily enough you/luna is a wolf team i tinfoiled earlier and you just came in hard villa reading luna eheh)
sameish for estelle. tbh i ddint even see their vote on me
dubu suddenly caring to vote seems more wolfy than not but i cant really see i have a read on him based on his posting
And also, why is Estelle voting you? I thought they had been sr Dubu and Juno, which funnily enough, both are voting on you. @Estelle Can you explain your vote when u get the chance? (Might find it in reading but incase you are here)
I believe what I was referring here was if you felt like a !town Era could have misinterpreted or felt your posts towards them was accusatory despite them responding in that way. Upon re-read tho, I also did see where you stated how it’s not AI and that you will keep an eye on them and that Era just kind of missed on those points. But more so I was trying to gauge your thoughts on if it was possible she may have misinterpreted the intentions behind your earlier posts.
And to your first point of the conversation drop, I believe one of Era’s main points against Estelle was their read/approach to Atlas and once it was a misunderstanding of the reference, then majority of that specific argument fell as Era mentioned. But after Atlas chimed in, Era did respond and go back on Estelle for a bit.
So when reading, I can understand ur suspicion at the time on Era in regards to how they responded to you and missed some key understandings from your post.
But I had an issue with Rune’s push and accusation against Era.
Rune stated how it was opportunistic for Era to town-lock Atlas, but the thing is, Era’s town read on Atlas wasn’t even for the push on Era but for the way Atlas approached the scumread independent of who he was actually pushing on. So it was completely mischaracterizing Era’s reason for tr Atlas as well as considering the fact Era didn’t use Atlas’s push on Estelle as a reason to town read them.
And here, Atlas is actually adding onto what Era said initially about Estelle which made Era open up to certain things when she initially dismissed a part of her case. So it feels a bit odd to say that “Era sheeped with nothing to add” when majority of Atlas’s case was based on Era’s initial sr mixed with mine on Estelle.
And this to me feels a bit unfair on Era, since some points that Atlas mentioned drew back Era’s attention that felt she “could be right” and see things she did not see initially. It feels like a nitpicky push from Rune solely because Era dropped the case and then went back once someone put their scum case with their thoughts echoing a bit of Era’s with their own insight. Also, it’s important to note I was scum reading Estelle around the same time that Era also dropped it, so I am not sure if this is considered opportunistic just because Era started to feel some validity again based on Atlas’s comments.
So @Drekar, when I look at someone’s push, I look at the reasons and the foundation behind the push and though I disagree somewhat that Era is mafia, I attempt to look at both your push and Rune and see the reasonings behind them. Your case had some validaty from your POV that I could empathize with, while Rune’s push felt a bit of a mischaracterization of Era’s actions towards Atlas and not really paying attention to the context as a whole behind what happened with Era and Estelle.
This is insightful analysis in response to Estelle’s comment about feeling that scum would push them because of their powers, because… mafia would just kill them instead of putting them in POE as Drek’ar just mentioned.
townie nuanced response from Drek’ar.
On a side note, Estelle mentioning how they feel like scum would push on their slot and yet tr the initial players who pressured their slot seems somewhat rand>town. Because it indicates they are agendaless with their approach, as they did not utilize this reasoning to scum read the players that pressured their slot when I’d maybe expect Estelle to do so if mafia.
Just read through Ai.Mi’s first wall posts and I can’t say I am impressed. It felt a bit more summary to me without much nuanced behind the reads. Like more fluff than actual juice/reasoning behind their reads on certain slots. They did follow up afterwards with their scum case/push on Era in a campaign manner which does not come off as saboteur/saboteur on a side note.
This part of the accusation does not really make sense to me with the active lurking since that is kind of a paradox and considering Era was fully participative though be it in a more responsive manner but did include some thoughts. Also, I feel like the busyness factor is more NAI if anything even for Estelle when you mentioned but feels like a throwaway reason to just add reasoning there.
Can you explain what was the tipping point for Era over Estelle in your mind at the time of this post considering you seem to accuse them both for similar points besides the defensive part?
Maybe I am being a bit nitpicky, but this seems kind of a leading question with attempting to discredit Era’s change of mind from Estelle’s clarification which was on Era’s posts about Estelle and Atlas which turned out to be an incorrect representation. So naturally, they would drop that point. And they earlier mentioned how they believed Era was scummy for being “less decisive with takes” yet question them for being “so sure of their case” which would emit the opposite belief of how Era represents her reads.
Also, just considering on who I have tr so far and based on who has pushed Era, at this moment from a combinatorial percentage, Era has a less chance of being a saboteur from my POV.
