Paradox Hazard - GAME OVER - MAFIA VICTORY!

Looking at this message again

the wording

“town or mafia”

seems a bit silly. goofy. Like … Leafia tone. Not quite Zone’s tone

What if - hear me out. What if Zone reused the role as a Mafia role. Leafia saw it. Decided to openly claim it. And added that tidbit herself - about town or mafia - to try to make it more believable

I also don’t know why Leafia thought the anti-claim is weak. We don’t know what the anti-claim is, it’s hidden in the OP

So how aboutttt we tryyyyy thisssss

VOTE: Leafia

i thought it was weak too but then i realized it was an extra vig and not just putting strongman on the factional

anticlaim is this:

not saying anything about leafia’s alignment with this, just wanted to inform u since i was also a dummy

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Oh

It would appear I am incapable of reading!

Very well, nevermind about this. It was public information. I jumped the horse a little!

UNVOTE

ok tutuu is town

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Thanks. ^_^ Brushes my honorary fur

I have literally 0 reason to lie about that regardless of my alignment.

This is a weird reason to townread someone. Not sure how I feel about it.

Nope. I’m the only one.

So you don’t want people with limited use abilities to get more uses? It also has a secondary effect in proving that I’m telling the truth as well.

Extremely similar to it.

This is beyond dumb. First, I didn’t even know Zone had used a very similar role to mine previously.

Second, I literally never claim like this this early as scum, which I even pointed out in the BG3 game, where I was town.

Third, it was +ev for me to claim here as town and -ev if I was mafia. Because if I was a wolf, by claiming, I’d be getting rid of the ability to jst anticlaim people that got vanillaized.

Fourth, it literally explains what the anticlaim is in the OP.

VOTE: Tutuu

Tutuu’s progression on me seems very unnatural. You don’t go from locktowning someone to thinking they’re a wolf in such a short span of time.

Haha you’re probably just town

well that was not a thought i had

Absolutely not, if you’re town you’re contributing to mafia getting KP unless you lied about your role

Actually now that I think about it your role makes a ton of sense as a town role given the anti claim

And it’s even worse that you claimed

Because I believe Zone’s idea was to give Town your role, vannilize people who have no more use of their abilities, and stop Mafia from getting those Paradox Points or whatever. It was supposed to be like a protection for the town, is my guess

that feels a little wolf pov my friend

It’s only because I claimed that we even found out that wolves can claim VT for someone.

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see this is my hang-up with your claim
i can buy you thinking it helps the town to claim early, but it kinda feels like a wolf using the claim as a reason you have to be town

I guess it’s not all that bad

I would urge for nobody to claim how many shots they have left

Don’t claim when you’re vannilized

If Leafia is town her role is supposed to protect us from anti-claim

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Wrong. Because if I had said nothing, people would’ve claimed vanillaized and become anticlaimable and town wouldn’t know the vanillaization was because of a villager ability nor know what was causing it.

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Oh

I’m sorry, I think you’re right

Wellll … ideally people wouldn’t claim vannilized at all. But maybe they would. Not unreasonable

Okay, I can see your line of thinking. Back to lock town you go

man i wish i knew how to read leafia ive lost like all my confidence over the years lmfao

kinda coming around to townie insistence

Like ideally you could just screamed “HEY GUYS DONT CLAIM ANYTHING NO MATTER WHAT”, I think a bit more optimal than allowing mafia to generate points off of you, but this isn’t the end of the world, all good

If I was a wolf, why claim then? I’d be giving up a lot and you know how I play as both alignments. I’m known for claiming early as town. I never do it as a wolf.

I know Chloe is mafia but I like her too much to push her Day 1 :heart: