Paradox Hazard - GAME OVER - MAFIA VICTORY!

[Chloe]

I believe that you believe this, for the record
I do think that Someone was probably roleblocked, but it’s very possible he claimed it to try to look like a villager
He’s done this sort of thing before, so it doesn’t make him town in my eyes

[catbae]

yeah if you can scroll u i had a post on this

faking stuff like this is just…what he does as mafia

[ash4fun]

@Someone

I got no problem being night killed

@Someone

Like I would argue im prob more sus then average so its fine

investigative with no problem being nightkilled feels weird. Even with the more sus than average bit feels icky. Unless they’re entirely lying to draw the nightkill, but that still feels weird the way they’ve approached it

@Someone

ngl she doesnt do that

sticking up for bystander, with a crosspost with them. feels towny, idk if it affects bystander’s alignment

@Someone

Idk what to even look for ngl from the posts, like what did people think was weird about ash

derp here, thinking about me. Still probably towny to (in their mind) go against a common sr. Also slightly more t if ash w for not knowing their partner

@Someone

Ash/Marluna is weird tho idk how to feel about it, feels almost like both of them want credit for susing/being sused the other one but neither want to vote each other.

@Someone

And the Marluna proceeds to ignore you, like that is so wack

I missed the first one, but this feels like a towny thought. Unless it’s exactly ash v, marl w; then it’s sus cuz it pivots to marl v

Final thoughts are that someone is probably town. idk tho. I feel like either marl or ash is a better exec here

[Memekingpizza]

Is it bad that I don’t see it But the thing I want to argue by saying that they claimed to be roleblocked makes them mafia. Like I don’t know their ability it could be a bad one for us or a bad on for mafia but I don’t think you can use that claim against them at this point in time. It justs seems flimsy. I just don’t know how to put it in words though. I think it’s just instinct and wanting them to stay on the board.

[Chloe]

eaves not being engaged at EoD when it’s likely that wagons were v/v/v is blergh

[ash4fun]

honestly I think I’ve been won over that this is a better wagon

VOTE: Marluna

[eaves]

VOTE: @Someone

[Chloe]

eaves have you played any other non-discord mafia? i really wanna read some games of yours lol

[eaves]

Nope, I only play on Discord and now here hehe

[Chloe]

oh my god wait @catbae have you thought eaves is an alt this whole time? they’re from garfooled’s community

[catbae]

no that was a joke

[eaves]

Why are you two afraid of me I’m just a girl

[Chloe]

i love ur posts
u may be a wolf but u make great posts

[eaves]

Thanks lmaoo

[Chloe]

@Hazardwaste

@catbae

did you really just post a readlist where there is one light townread and two null reads

lmao

did you really just take that read out of context lol

“I think is where i am at the moment from my quick read through the last hour or so.” i was about to fall asleep and didnt wanna stay up making paragraphs

Second person to take this post and warp it to their needs

@Hazardwaste

I am more worried about you chloe

Who did understand what the message was and didnt correct it. And you did like it so you were there

@Hazardwaste

Why didnt you say anything about it?

@Hazardwaste

Sorry i get defensive when people call my posts meaningless cause i do try with them. i am just scared to make really harsh choices.

@Hazardwaste

This is a nit pick, your pulling that out of context from a larger read. its less of the read itself more of the entire post being very people pleasing. but your probably right and i am just overthinking shit. probably lack of confidence tbh like every fucking time i am town its the same thing “Start game, make a read, get pushed to hell and back”.
I am sorry i am not much help atm i think i am honestly hurting town more then i am actually helping lol. i may have a mental break from the thread and hopefully come back clear headed later.
i am so sorry

@Hazardwaste

imma find his wolf game (TOS 3) i was with him in. cause i swear he wasnt silent on day 1 in that game

i think i am gonna just restart myself and just re read everything without getting pressurised under the collar later on lol.

But right now so i am doing something useful imma find that frost wolf game

@Hazardwaste

second highest poster and on the evil team @tutuu from my quick breeze through day 1 he seemed to be active. not over active but still active.

@Hazardwaste

these posts being 2 minutes apart and you seemed to have ignored me. i know you said you were busy but surely your day 1 is not just answering questions with questions and poping into chat to say random things then leaving.

(whole interaction w/ tutuu regarding frost & the convo w/ frost that followed seem genuine - forgot to quote some earlier stuff and too lazy to go back)

@Hazardwaste

i dislike the fact your drilling this into the floor here.

My ideaology was back then their was a tinfoil theory in my head that tutuu was evil trying to bus frost out due to me and eaves both picking up their original read on frost wasn’t necessarily thought out.

I didnt out this theory cause it was a tinfoil and more of a “Unlikely scenario” but something i still wanted to have noted down for later. Obviously that tinfoil was very wrong

yeah hazard seems town on re-read

[Someone]

@catbae

why does someone claim being roleblocked here ? there’s no conceivable protown benefit to doing so - it just opens you up to being interfered with by mafia

4 different reasons for why I could do this:
a) If I didnt do this and I did claim it later, it would look far more suspicious
b) I suspect that I wasnt roleblocked by somebody picking me but instead of me picking somebody
c) I can alert good team to potentially evil activity on myself so somebody can see who visits me tonight
d) I am trying to waste evils time by either getting nightkilled or anti claimed.

[Chloe]

Marluna
bystander
Someone
eaves

cool

[Someone]

I still believe me claiming what I did was net beneficial and not a mistake

[catbae]

a) why would it look more suspicious? that feels very self-conscious to me
b) if you believe it happened as a result of you targeting someone…how is that compatible with a)?
c) this feels manufactured - presuming there’d be a watcher and you’d be targeted by them is a super remote scenario
d) this seems like something you’re saying to look towny rather than something you truly believe

[ash4fun]

@Someone

I suspect that I wasnt roleblocked by somebody picking me but instead of me picking somebody

why did/do you think this is more likely?
pgo-roleblocker is definitely plausible in this setup, but why is that more likely than a normal roleblocker?

And why does this make it +town to claim it?