it could be an accidentally optimal choice
could be that they just didn’t know what to do with the fake poison so they didn’t use it, didn’t necessarily have to know it’s suboptimal or whatever
agree speculation on this is most likely pointless
@Kanave you’ve seen eliza as both alignments before, right?
what do you think about the actual case she made here (see message this is replying to)
the confidence in the way she presented this read reminds me of the way i used to play when i thought i caught someone dead to rights based on inconsistencies in their iso, and i think it’s indicative that she believed in her read on aelin
you kinda just… talked about her other stuff instead lol
yeah idk vulgard’s kanave case kinda goes hard and he’s right that they haven’t been solving the game
there’s also this thing which i might be nitpicking, but in the post where she accused me of overreacting she prefaced it with “if you’re town you’re overreacting” which like. why was that necessary. would i not be overreacting as a wolf there as well? it reminds me of how when i’m a wolf i sometimes include “if you’re town” more than usual because i’m subconsciously worried about getting accused of TMI’ing people as town (does this happen to anyone else?)
the problem i have are these posts
which i mean
i feel like a wolf probably isnt very likely to make… especially at eod when theres a risk of being cfd’ed
it’s not strong enough to make me not want to kill them but it does give me pause
thief
you’ve seen eliza as both alignments before, right?
Yes, but that was what gave my pause on her case actually
I was torn about her case on Aelin, because gut wise it just pinged me as town; but comparing it to the games ive seen them in its closer to their scumgame;
a compilation of drinks’ content posts starts out with the standard of scumreading demi no reason provided though (unless the reason is the below quote I forgot the context to that ) things like this are exactly why i scumread demi (see: the “2 mafia, 2 people are coordinating, hmmm” post) well, with more stuff, but still i still think its kinda sus but not as much as you’d think i forgot the context to this and absolutely should have quoted it alas he’…
scummy legit this is like the typical “scum wants to throw shade without really saying it” this kinda makes up for it but not really “useless self-meta (also i was a wolf in that game)” perhaps not explicitly wolfy but still rather… suspicious that they realize they were doing the same thing as wolf. actually that’s probably townie cuz wolves wouldn’t do that without pulling out that argument but
compared to
Possible logic in worlds where Leafia is Mafia: she’s rolled wolf, she’s feeling nervous. She’s not in the right frame of mind. She’s talking because she doesn’t want to be inactive, and to take the edge off. i will admit the tmi-ing self vilager part is wolfy but like Leafia casts a vote, and then retracts it. I know it’s the start of the first day, everyone’s meming. Once again, this is to take the edge of her stress off. the whole thing about “stress” is just dumb imo This is no…
part of this is that i dont really feel like i have a good sample for her town game? Like we also played a mash but we both slanked that past d1 so meh
In the first ones she’s making a more solid case connecting the thoughts, but in her town example she just kinda goes off on random thoguhts without really wrapping them up in one solid package. I can see what you’re saying with the “thought (they) cause someone dead to rights” but personally i only had a gut feeling that it was towny and i didn’t want to confuse people by saying that post felt towny, while not liking the rest of their iso, and providing evidence that she plays differently as a wolf an towny and this fits more into the wolf slot of what i was providing?? idk my thoguhts here were just messy so i left them out, hindsight obv shouldn’t have left them out its better to just tell everyone im confused but i was conflicted
i somehow completely missed this post but i guess it’s not a totally insane thought to have then
which i mean
i feel like a wolf probably isnt very likely to make… especially at eod when theres a risk of being cfd’edit’s not strong enough to make me not want to kill them but it does give me pause
at first she was posting like she was keeping tabs on the thread but didn’t really make reads, then she posted the stuff you quoted which implies she’s fine with how things are going and fine with her own play, then she suddenly admits it was bad now that she’s been cased
idk i feel like this is adapting to the thread more than anything else
VOTE: Nokiel
VOTE: Kanave
VOTE: Prophylaxis
VOTE: Kanave
i feel like if you actually read the way the reads are presented there’s a stark difference
in the posts where she was a wolf, despite admittedly the logic still being mostly as good as it is here, the way it’s presented is different. there’s a lot more hedge, a lot more pointing out things which could also come from town, as well as going back and forth
but in the one you quoted from her towngame she doesn’t really go back and forth on the read she’s making on magnus in that same post (she agrees with his first point but doesn’t say it’s a reason for him being town). it’s pretty much just a wolfread
and i feel like her case on aelin this game feels way more assertive and lacking the hedginess of the ones you quoted from her wolfgame and it’s more in line with the one from her towngame
i am less sure on this than i was before because i have remembered that she can make logical cases as a wolf, but the point about the assertiveness still stands imo
i had a day to mull over my play, my own thoughts on it changed pretty heavily in that time
So basically you’re saying that the hedgy-ness would be one of the main factors there? I can see it. In this worldview she’d have been defensive and focusing on Aelin the rest of the day essentially tunneling then…
ya i guess that fills the holes i had with her other posts; I still wouldn’t put her as a confident town though
I mean no actually, it doesn’t fill all of the holes I still don’t think the way she’s been brushing off explaining herself on the others nor deflcting is paticularly towny
sorry im trying to read another iso on jar now but i saw Eliza’s response ther and wanted to comment
Jar is super cleared via purity imo
could you expand on this
i’ve never really understood purity reads on newer players because i feel like a lot of that is more new-player-indicative than town-indicative
if we miss again i’ll revisit eliza for aelin’s sake but i don’t think i want to go there today
@Nokiel i need you to make a stance on who you actually want to kill today
even if you don’t think your reasons are good enough you just need to go with what you think makes the most sense
Vulgard - as for me I can never be so sure of anyone being a wolf in the first round but here he has almost declared lemonfairy is town. Whenever I am mafia I sometimes just call someone who is chatting(posting in this case) innocent out of the blue. I believe I gain trust by performing such action.
who are partners? a host account told me that the game is happening here and directed me to this thread or chat
i think they are accusing me of being mafia because i think mafias here normally use the tactic of calling themselves a new player
like this is nonsense but there’s not a ton of scum motivation to post like this