Which reads of mine do you disagree with?
Feel free to disagree with reads, everyone ought to share their opinion on reads, but just saying im wrong because im making a lot of attempts at reads and you dont want me to make a lot of attempts at reads feels very silly
My only take was you have way too much townreads for how early it is, i dont recall u doin this in the game u pointed out
Okay feel free to be suspicious of me then. I understood it as “youre leading in the wrong direction” as in, im pushing town to be wrong; that my reads are wrong. Which is not impossible but if nobody suggests where im wrong we dont really have anything else to do and its not entirely on me
do you necessarily disagree with any of the townreads
Here’s a (legal, compiled by hand) spreadsheet of Ash’s games here that I could find, excluding FAMs for being too annoying to count. As you can see he is not especially postcount polarised, the difference is nowhere near significant.
If you toss out the outlier of Virtuous IV (mislabeled lol there have only been 5), and the BotF:
…then you could probably say he posts less as wolf, the lowest-posting 2 games are wolfgames and the highest-posting 4 are towngames, but the threshold is tight (33.5 ppd in highest wolfgame vs 38.75 ppd in lowest towngame), the sample size is small, and this is mafia not statistics class. IV means he’s clearly shown capability to highpost as wolf, if not generally desire.
Kittens and Virtuous V are more recent wolfgames than IV, so it’s not like he’s done wolf highposting recently, but he got D1ed in Virtuous and in Kittens Game he was specifically playing to the game’s mech to be generally wolfread but with the wrong partners (and he was mech outed on the last day). I’d be cautious about trying to read Ash on postcount alone, though I think you could get somewhere by more thoughtfully analysing the underlying causes of postcount, comfort in thread and motivation
Dissecting tutuu’s readlist
Fun “unreadables”, id think frost and kii are usually more readable but maybe thats later down the line
Townreads I agree with:
Ill temporarily sheep this on meta, havent found anything objectionable myself
litlit be litlit-ing
More or less agreed
In agreement here; think w!leafia’s more reactive than proactive
First, altreading bad
But i think this is a fair point
Scumreads I agree with:
Doomerism bad
The weird collection:
All of these list reactions to reads which… not great, especially the townreads off of them. It’s d1, we all know reads arent great rn, so the reactions are usually nai - and i havent seen any that super jump out to me. I fear tutuu giving the “chill when pressured” when there havent been any substantial pressure is a smokescreen
Reading back at the list we’re left with exactly 3 scumreads and a whole ton of "idk"s, i feel that’s PoEing too early which partly leads to doomerism
Bad
Dont read into postcounts
pandora (4): Leafia, Atlas, sulit, tutuu
Luxy (3): May, Arctic, Apprentice
bystander (1): beancat
Jarek (1): Illwei
Arctic (1): Anonymoose
Leafia (1): pandora
Not Voting (6): bystander, Luxy, Jarek, Kiiruma, Ash, Frostwolf103
Bad
You literally did not read my post if you thought I was saying “read into postcounts alone as a source of evidence” + postcounts are still a piece of information that you can take into account when you’re making your read on somebody + I don’t get the obsession with “activity is NAI” when that’s clearly false, it’s wishful thinking, activity alone can’t make you a read but nothing short of a redcheck can + L + ratio + no bitches + etc
You can throw any data at a wall and convince yourself there’s a pattern
Like that might actually correspond with the hours of sleep they got that week for all we know
Please look at my post and tell me if you think I was saying “we should all read Ash based solely off the number of posts he has”
so you disagree with tutuu trying to judge so many people this early?
Do that for me and tell me a pattern and I can guarantee you my response will be to pull up my calendar
You’re assuming way too much for non-substantial evidence
bean are you paying attention to what may said
Yes
Please look at my post and tell me exactly what I “assumed”
Please tell me what I assumed
You literally are agreeing with me and presenting it as an objection
My point here is dont do it at all
Your assumption is that their postcount and alignment have something to do with each other thr moment you start compiling data for it
Im telling u to stop
